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Offline tallbear

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English Style Scratching
« on: January 29, 2015, 12:56:33 AM »
A recent English fowler commission gave me the opportunity to try English style engraving for the first time.I thought I would post the results...........

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« Last Edit: January 29, 2015, 01:36:11 AM by aka tallbear »

Offline FALout

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Re: English Style Scratching
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2015, 01:21:34 AM »
All I can say is "wow"
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Re: English Style Scratching
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2015, 02:02:01 AM »
Excellent work
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Re: English Style Scratching
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2015, 02:18:48 AM »
Subdued elegance. I like it.

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Re: English Style Scratching
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2015, 03:18:09 AM »
Simple- almost understated, well cut, elegant, effective, very pleasing to the eye.  Thanks for this Mitch.
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Re: English Style Scratching
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2015, 04:00:47 AM »
Are the dimples in your nick and dent border punched or cut? It looks great.

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Re: English Style Scratching
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2015, 04:22:17 AM »
Thanks for posting your engraving. Looks very authentic and what one would expect for the period.
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Re: English Style Scratching
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2015, 05:15:38 AM »
Wow... You have some serious skills!

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Re: English Style Scratching
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2015, 06:02:44 AM »
Good work Mitch. I love that type engraving.
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Re: English Style Scratching
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2015, 01:23:52 PM »
Wish I could learn to do something like that. Just about given up trying to learn the skill through books.
I have the Lindsey sharpening jigs. Getting gravers sharp is easy. Just can't seem to do at straigth line with consistant depth and width.

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Re: English Style Scratching
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2015, 02:45:23 PM »
Looking good, Mitch. Hope to see you next week.

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Re: English Style Scratching
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2015, 02:45:43 PM »
Engraving is magical.......I tried one time"........ahahahahaaaaaaaathen threw away the practice piece so no one could see it.......


Back to the rasps, planes, and draw draw knives.....

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Re: English Style Scratching
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2015, 04:46:23 PM »
Thanks Guys

haddockkl
I cut the nicks with a graver and the dots are done with a center punch.

To those who say they can't engrave all I can say is "If I can engrave you can engrave" .It's really a matter of consistently sharpened gravers (Lindsay templates are super for solving this problem) and practice,practice and more practice.I struggle with my engraving and only recently committed myself to improving.To improve that means practicing on a regular basis.While I'll never be a "good" engraver in the modern sense my personal goal is to be as good as I can be.This will allow me to do beliveable 18th Century engraving.

If you want to engrave bad enough just do it and do it some more.The more you practice the more you will be able to.....

I've included below a pic of my first attempt at engraving a patchbox  for contrast :)


Mitch

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Re: English Style Scratching
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2015, 04:47:59 PM »
Wow is right.  "Tasteful" can be hard to define.  You nailed it good sir. 

Best wishes,   Marc

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Re: English Style Scratching
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2015, 06:04:14 PM »
Actually the patchbox is not too bad either. Historic American engraving in most cases was not what we would today call good engraving. English engraving, however was a different story, and you did a good job at it.

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Re: English Style Scratching
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2015, 07:06:20 PM »
Mitch, are you chasing with a hammer or are you sing a airgraver system?

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Re: English Style Scratching
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2015, 08:12:54 PM »
BEAUTIFUL WORK!!!
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Re: English Style Scratching
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2015, 09:04:19 PM »
Gaeckle

I am using a hammer and chisel. It's a personal goal of mine to get as proficient as I can building 18th Century guns using as many 18th century tools and methods as I can.In my mind part of the charm of these 18th century rifles is their imperfections which I fear(maybe unfounded with my skills  :D ) would start to disappear if I switched to an air graver.This is'nt a knock on those that do I envy their work but at this moment it's not my journey........


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Re: English Style Scratching
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2015, 10:10:03 PM »
@!*% that is fine ;D Wouldn't be ashamed to have that on my rifle ;) 

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Re: English Style Scratching
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2015, 10:22:37 PM »
Gaeckle

I am using a hammer and chisel. It's a personal goal of mine to get as proficient as I can building 18th Century guns using as many 18th century tools and methods as I can.In my mind part of the charm of these 18th century rifles is their imperfections which I fear(maybe unfounded with my skills  :D ) would start to disappear if I switched to an air graver.This is'nt a knock on those that do I envy their work but at this moment it's not my journey........


Mitch

Right there with ya Mitch but many steps behind ya!
Nice work!

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Re: English Style Scratching
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2015, 04:41:27 AM »
Always like seein your stuff, Mitch.
Lookin forward to seein more of it in Lewisburg.
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Re: English Style Scratching
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2015, 04:52:10 AM »
That looks real nice Mitch. I love engraving with deep bold cuts like that, and I know how hard it can be to pull that look off without it looking sloppy. Your mix of line weights and clean cuts really gets it to snap.  Thanks for the pictures.

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« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2015, 05:27:30 AM »
Fine art as always!! I like these a lot!!
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Re: English Style Scratching
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2015, 07:28:09 AM »
That is looking good Mitch. you get better with each gun. I always enjoy seeing your work.
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Re: English Style Scratching
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2015, 08:41:30 AM »
Mitch,  that is very nice looking.    Very neat, even lines.  As someone else said.   Simple is the hardest to do right.