There are basically two or even three ways to 'dish' a Lehigh. Moll rifles almost (I say 'almost' to cover my a** - really I mean 'always'...) always began an upward dish at the forward portion of the guard; in other words, every Moll rifle I have seen has the entire guard mounted into a concave curve beginning at the forward point of the guard finial and ending where the rear tab meets the stock at the rear of the grip rail. Rupp type rifles - Herman I would point to specifically but Peter Neihart also - began this concave dish at the forward portion of the guard bow - the front finial in other words is fairly level with the forestock, then under the bow the dishing begins. Neihart seems to have sometimes carried the level lower forestock line back through most of the bow area even, but then had a more abrupt curve under the grip rail terminating where the rear tab met the stock. It's all splitting hairs really, but it can radically alter the appearance depending upon how it is accomplished.