Author Topic: Building the double flint gun (Read 11256 times)

Old Ford2 · « **on:** December 20, 2015, 07:35:33 PM »

Hi,
Sometime back, someone posted pictures and points of fitting barrels, locks, and tang for a double flint shotgun.
Could someone direct me to this post.
I have tried the search with no luck.
Thank you!
PS: I have a chance to purchase the Brockway book and some parts, but do not know if this is above my meager skills.

Fred

t.caster · « **Reply #1 on:** December 20, 2015, 08:28:51 PM »

You should definitly buy the Bill Brockway book and read it front to back a couple times before starting.
I had a defunct old English dbl. stock with furniture, on hand to use as reference for my build, too. That really helped.
Good luck!

Daryl · « **Reply #2 on:** December 20, 2015, 08:54:36 PM »

I know a couple guys who built double flinters.

12 bore

16 bore or maybe 20 - can't remember

Old Ford2 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 20, 2015, 10:30:49 PM »

DARYL!

Not too shabby!
Fred

gumboman · « **Reply #4 on:** December 20, 2015, 10:37:06 PM »

Beautiful. My dream gun. Wish I had the know how to build one of those.

D. Taylor Sapergia · « **Reply #5 on:** December 20, 2015, 10:44:41 PM »

I wished the same. So I bought Bill Brockway's book, et voila!!

Old Ford2 · « **Reply #6 on:** December 21, 2015, 12:06:23 AM »

Taylor,
You built that!
Wow!!!
You is THE man!

Fred

Mike Brooks · « **Reply #7 on:** December 21, 2015, 12:06:33 AM »

Nice! I have built a few. I finally came to the point I'd rather blow my brains out than do another so I quit building them. I found them to be quite tedious.

jerrywh · « **Reply #8 on:** December 21, 2015, 12:08:24 AM »

There is a lot easier way to breach a double shotgun than the English way. The French way is much easier and looks great also. The first photo was the wrong one try this one.

http://jwh-flintlocks.net/ff-top-quarter-gray.jpg

oldtravler61 · « **Reply #9 on:** December 21, 2015, 02:52:40 AM »

Got to see Napoleon's double flint at the Bass pro shop in Springfield a couple of years ago. Stunning to say the least. An jerrywh that pic looks quite similar . Fantastic workmanship. No power tools either.

Old Ford2 · « **Reply #10 on:** December 21, 2015, 03:00:43 AM »

http://jwh-flintlocks.net/ff-top-quarter-gray.jpg
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Looks like a "New Orlan's" pimp gun

jerrywh · « **Reply #11 on:** December 21, 2015, 03:25:13 AM »

Yeah, If you knew how much them pimps paid for a gun like that you would be shocked.

D. Taylor Sapergia · « **Reply #12 on:** December 21, 2015, 06:11:22 AM »

Jerry, no one would argue that that is far more than just a shotgun.

L. Akers · « **Reply #13 on:** December 21, 2015, 06:48:47 AM »

I built one about 10 years ago. I had started collecting parts about 10 years before that but was chicken to start. During the ten years of reluctancy I learned enough to make a really nice gun. There are so many parts that have to be hand made because they just aren't available on the market. I want to make one more--a drilling before my time on earth is up.

frogwalking · « **Reply #14 on:** December 21, 2015, 06:59:11 AM »

How will you fire the bottom barrel? I have seen a flint underhammer, but don't think it would fit a drilling.

L. Akers · « **Reply #15 on:** December 21, 2015, 07:14:38 AM »

Quote from: frogwalking on December 21, 2015, 06:59:11 AM

How will you fire the bottom barrel? I have seen a flint underhammer, but don't think it would fit a drilling.

It will be an (ugh) percussion with the front trigger firing either the right barrel or the underslung rifle barrel, depending on which one is cocked.

jerrywh · « **Reply #16 on:** December 21, 2015, 07:25:30 AM »

The French breach system just used two breach plugs wit hhooks on the ends that hooked into a regular double hook breech tang. Very simple compared to the English style. Some English shotguns had a breach that screwed over the outside of the barrel.

Captchee · « **Reply #17 on:** December 21, 2015, 02:33:57 PM »

Yep, Jerry
or you could do it like on some of the Austrian guns which have 2 full plugs that are not interlocked with a short section of center rib center rib screwed between the breech plugs

jerrywh · « **Reply #18 on:** December 21, 2015, 08:26:54 PM »

Capchee.
On the Austrian guns does the screw come in from the bottom that holds the center rib piece??

Captchee · « **Reply #19 on:** December 22, 2015, 01:29:35 AM »

yes up from the bottom but only the small section of rib thats between the plugs . At least the two I originally looked at did .
I had ask Bill about this a couple times and he had also stated that he had seen much the same .
i also have some photos of a Frenchy that has button type breech plugs . IE the standing breech is held to the barrels by button screws that thread into the back of the breech . originally tried to purchase this piece but the owner wanted way , WAY more then it was worth IMO .
As you can see , it wasn’t as high end piece . But I sure would have liked it for patterns

I think the next one i build will be an over and under double flint

kaintuck · « **Reply #20 on:** December 22, 2015, 01:35:15 AM »

I was watch Gary Cooper film last night~ "The Unconquered" and I notices he had a swivel flinter!!!!!!!!!! 1947 and very good movie~ the director was none the less than Cecil B Demille!!!!!!!!!

marc n tomtom

Captchee · « **Reply #21 on:** December 22, 2015, 01:40:12 AM »

i wasnt speaking of a swivel breech but a true over on under double flint .

Daryl · « **Reply #22 on:** December 22, 2015, 02:59:35 AM »

So cool Captchee! Now, many of us are champing at the bit to see it made. Kind of Jaeger-esque!

jerrywh · « **Reply #23 on:** December 22, 2015, 03:08:47 AM »

Capchee
I worked on two French guns with breaches just like the one with the two screws holding the tang piece on. I am making a double French flint pistol now with the hook type breach.

Hungry Horse · « **Reply #24 on:** December 22, 2015, 04:47:39 AM »

You guys do remember that it was the inherent problems with double barrel flinders, that inspired Forsyth to develope the percussion system. That being said, an over, and under flinter is an intriguing thought.

Hungry Horse

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