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Offline Clark Badgett

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Hawken style pistol breach plug and tang ?
« on: January 29, 2016, 03:19:44 AM »
I've got three pistol pistol barrels that I cut from a GM 7/8" rifle barrel that I messed up. I am thinking of making a Hawken style pistol from one and am wondering if anyone knows of a source for the BP and tang in this size? All I've located have been over or under.
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Offline D. Taylor Sapergia

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Re: Hawken style pistol breach plug and tang ?
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2016, 03:30:03 AM »
I bought the one I used in my Hawken pistol from TOW in 1979...but it's for a 15/16" bbl...
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Re: Hawken style pistol breach plug and tang ?
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Re: Hawken style pistol breach plug and tang ?
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2016, 03:44:26 AM »
Those are all for 1" barrel.
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Re: Hawken style pistol breach plug and tang ?
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2016, 03:56:52 AM »
You can make the 15/16 " breech work it's only 1/32 oversized on each flat. A good file and a little time is all it will take. Same way I do to use an 1 1/16" barrel with 1 1/8" breech

Offline Clark Badgett

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Re: Hawken style pistol breach plug and tang ?
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2016, 07:29:08 AM »
Thanks everyone. I was figuring I would have to file an oversized example to fit. Figured it wouldn't hurt ask first.
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Offline Daryl

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Re: Hawken style pistol breach plug and tang ?
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2016, 10:15:51 AM »
Make it a flinter - no problem. What calibre and twist? I was able to get a 60" twist 10" .54 to shoot well, but had to use 55 to 60gr. 3F - it is about as powerful as my .44M29 4"S&W, driving a 220gr. ball to 1,200fps. Nice hand flinter- kicks like it too!
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Re: Hawken style pistol breach plug and tang ?
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2016, 02:20:06 AM »
Make it a flinter - no problem. What calibre and twist? I was able to get a 60" twist 10" .54 to shoot well, but had to use 55 to 60gr. 3F - it is about as powerful as my .44M29 4"S&W, driving a 220gr. ball to 1,200fps. Nice hand flinter- kicks like it too!

Daryl, I got three barrels. One of them is planned for a flint build someday. These blanks are .45 cal.
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Offline okieboy

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Re: Hawken style pistol breach plug and tang ?
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2016, 03:00:46 AM »
 Clark, let me show my ignorance here. I think you are asking for a pistol hook breech. Did Hawken pistols use a hook breech or merely a patent breech? I'm sure someone on here knows. Either way a hook breech would be keen.
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Re: Hawken style pistol breach plug and tang ?
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2016, 03:35:08 AM »
Clark, let me show my ignorance here. I think you are asking for a pistol hook breech. Did Hawken pistols use a hook breech or merely a patent breech? I'm sure someone on here knows. Either way a hook breech would be keen.

I don't know the exact terminology for the two piece snail shaped percussion breech whether its hooked or patented. I also don't know much about Hawken pistols either, except they were largely outdated by the time Jacob died. I just think the style looks nice and would be a cool project, and could be as hard hitting as the .45 Colt cartridge, which would be an improvement over the power of the percussion wheel guns I own.  ;D
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Offline D. Taylor Sapergia

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Re: Hawken style pistol breach plug and tang ?
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2016, 04:34:27 AM »
Better than a 1847 Colt Walker????  Even my .60 cal Hawken pistol can't keep up with my Walker!
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Offline Clark Badgett

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Re: Hawken style pistol breach plug and tang ?
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2016, 05:36:47 AM »
I don't have a Walker. Just a couple of Colt navies and a .44 Remington. Fun to shoot but not powerhouses.  ;)
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Re: Hawken style pistol breach plug and tang ?
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2016, 08:18:13 PM »
Ok guys please stop the modern revolver discussions. We try not to be so strict and we see what happens. Once it gets started it just keeps going. Lets stick to sidelock rifles/pistols like our rules say.
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Re: Hawken style pistol breach plug and tang ?
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2016, 11:37:09 PM »
My fault Dennis...sorry.  Won't recur.
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Re: Hawken style pistol breach plug and tang ?
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2016, 01:29:42 AM »
On the other hand - LOl - just kidding.

I don't think the stock of Taylor's pistol would take a 'hunting' charge, however my .54 flint pistol does like 55 to 60gr. as noted. THAT is quite powerful with a 220gr. .526" patched round ball - accurate, too. All the power needed, for a point blank finishing shot.



same pistol, scanned

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Re: Hawken style pistol breach plug and tang ?
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2016, 03:20:45 AM »
Daryl, that is really nice.
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Re: Hawken style pistol breach plug and tang ?
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2016, 11:36:07 PM »
Taylor did all the shaping and inletting - I did the easy part.
Daryl

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