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Inletting a Barrel with the Method I have been using
« on: February 07, 2016, 04:28:42 AM »
Hello all.  I thought I should contribute something to the site.  I tend only to post when I need help.  There has always been a lot of discussion about inletting barrels.  I have taken a process from some folks on here, but I use different tools.  

I have used this method on three rifles now, and this would be the fourth.  The first one was a straight barrel, but it works on swamped barrels too.  I have tried this method leaving the breech plug in, but I prefer removing it.  This method also takes into account that the barrel does not need contact throughout the inlet.  I am most particular six inches from the breech and muzzle.  

This particular project is using a B weight 42 inch barrel in .45 caliber.  The first thing I do is measure the width of the barrel every two inches to determine the narrowest point of the barrel.  I could probably just go by the specs from the manufacturer, but I like to check.  

Once I determine that measurement I divide it by 2 and make note of that.  Then I figure out where I want the barrel to be and draw a line.  I then take the measurement of the narrowest point and mark that the full length of the barrel.  Using the divided number on either side of the line.  This way what I will cut is the narrowest point only.  I will cut the swamp with chisels later.  

This image (I apologize for the poor quality) is of the barrel outline for the narrowest point laid out on the stock.  


The next thing I do is I take a chisel and drive it in along that line.  It takes a while but I do it the whole length of the barrel.  The first time I did it, I would make a chisel mark and then carve out a trough but I do not think that is necessary anymore.  


I am going to cut this using an old router plane.  Which is the best 10 bucks plus shipping I have ever spent.  The blade of the plane is about the same width as the flats of the barrel which is nice.  The first cut I am going to make is to cut down to the depth of the bottom of the side flats, again at the narrowest point.  As you can see from my picture the first pass barely removes my pencil marks.  I start very slow, controlling the plane as I go.  Once I gain some depth and strengthen the sides I can move faster and cut more aggressively. The one thing to watch out for is the plan will want to start undercutting the sides.  Also, about halfway through I will take the chisel and drive it along the sides again.



As you can see from the image the one disadvantage is that I cannot cut all the way to the breech. I have to do the last four inches or so with chisels.  



At this point in the above image I have removed all of the material down to the bottom of the side flats.  This part does not take very long.  Then, using candle soot and chisels I sit the barrel in until it bottoms out.  Once it does that I eyeball a center line in the trough and cut another trough in the middle.  I gradually increase my depth until I get to the depth of the bottom flat at the narrowest point.  



Once this is achieved I use chisels to clean out the ledge that makes up the oblique angels.  The end result looks like so:





Here is what it looks like on the inside.  As you can see there are some high spot to clean out, but it is sitting where I want it to.



This process took me about seven hours today.  That includes layout, measuring, sharpening chisels and eating a sandwich.  

Feel free to make suggestions, criticize or point and laugh.  

Coryjoe
« Last Edit: June 22, 2016, 02:45:17 AM by Coryjoe »

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Re: Inletting a Barrel with the Method I have been using
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2016, 05:03:50 AM »
That is a good method, thanks for sharing.

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Re: Inletting a Barrel with the Method I have been using
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2016, 05:09:33 AM »
Lots of work.  I haven't inletted a barrel in awhile, but have done the same but just used a table saw to cut the channel at the narrowest point stopping way short of the breach end.  Afterwards, I will cut down the wood to almost the middle height of the barrel.  Oh yea, when using the table saw, I don't cut full depth, I scape it out to depth, read somewhere that most barrels are not tight fit to bottom of the channel.
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Re: Inletting a Barrel with the Method I have been using
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2016, 05:40:59 AM »
Coryjoe,
Looks like a good fit.  Congratulations on a job well done.  I think I inlet about 8 or so by hand before the novelty wore off so I know how much work it is.  The first barrel was pure drudgery, the second barrel I was able to put what I learned from the first barrel to use.  The third and forth were fun and then after about 4 more I got tired of doing it.  Now that I have had a stock duplicating machine for 14 years, barrel inletting is much more fun, and faster too.  ;D
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« Last Edit: February 08, 2016, 04:29:16 AM by David Rase »

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Re: Inletting a Barrel with the Method I have been using
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2016, 07:22:13 AM »
Coryjoe,                                                                                                                                                    You did a great job explaining a task that most don't look forward to doing, me included. Thanks for posting.           Bob
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Re: Inletting a Barrel with the Method I have been using
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2016, 07:30:52 AM »
Anything that makes the process of inletting a barrel faster is great in my book.  I still do it by hand, but I doubt anyone can argue that it is anything better than pure drudgery.  But it is easier to take more off than it is to put it back on, so I will continue this way until I find a quicker one.  Takes me about 5 days by hand, and that is not really working hard at it.  Since it doesn't have to be that precise, I am thinking I should cast a plane like that from aluminum, make a cutter for it, and see how it works.  Worse that can happen is that I get a few days older and throw it pack in the pot for re-melting. 

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Re: Inletting a Barrel with the Method I have been using
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2016, 07:57:27 AM »
Thanks for sharing Coryjoe!  I've been reading everything I can find on the methods that folks use for cutting their own barrel channels so that I can come up with a plan to try on my next rifle. Also I just discovered router planes about a week ago so it's nice to see one in use for this. I'm still not sure what method I'll settle on, but if mine comes out anywhere near as good as yours I'll be very happy!
      

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Re: Inletting a Barrel with the Method I have been using
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2016, 05:46:39 PM »
Very similar to the way I do it. I like my router plane.  Oct. to round a little more challenging.
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Re: Inletting a Barrel with the Method I have been using
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2016, 06:05:33 PM »
Thanks everyone.  I have been playing with an Oct/Round barrel and it is being a pill.  I still think the easiest way to inlet a barrel is call Dave Keck.  But I wanted to give it a try. 

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Re: Inletting a Barrel with the Method I have been using
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2016, 02:53:12 AM »
Nice one Coryjoe. I've been considering a router plane for a little while now for this reason. Would make hogging out a rough channel easy. Maybe I'll see if my Stanley #45 can do this.
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Re: Inletting a Barrel with the Method I have been using
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2016, 03:00:17 AM »
These can be very helpful to hand inlet a barrel.


« Last Edit: December 05, 2020, 09:16:09 PM by Dave B »
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Re: Inletting a Barrel with the Method I have been using
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2016, 07:08:33 AM »
I like the idea, CoryJoe!  I'll have to give it a try, it should save some time over the chisel and gouge method.

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Re: Inletting a Barrel with the Method I have been using
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2016, 08:32:04 PM »
New to the board and learning a WHOLE LOT of nifty tricks of the trade....THANKS!!

Just moved so putting my shop back together....hate moving!! This website is a treasure trove of excellent ideas and superb craftsmanship! THANKS!!  I'm in the process of un-befuggling a bad build on a Dixie Tennessee Mountain Rifle that I picked up for a song. Lots of repair, filling, re-inleting and all kinds of little stuff that tries a builders patience and nerves.

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Re: Inletting a Barrel with the Method I have been using
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2016, 09:05:59 AM »
Interesting, Coryjoe!  I've been reading in preparation for building and I think this is the first time anyone has mentioned using a plane.  I have a rebate plane and a couple of spokeshaves, I think I might have to make some of Dave B's planes too.

Looking forward to getting started.

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Re: Inletting a Barrel with the Method I have been using
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2016, 05:24:50 PM »
Interesting, Coryjoe!  I've been reading in preparation for building and I think this is the first time anyone has mentioned using a plane.  I have a rebate plane and a couple of spokeshaves, I think I might have to make some of Dave B's planes too.

Looking forward to getting started.

Jamie

Jamie, go to youtube and look up the Gunsmiths of Williamsburg.  You will find an old documentary that is about 50 minutes long.  In it Wallace Gussler uses a plane and gouges to inlet a barrel.

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Re: Inletting a Barrel with the Method I have been using
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2016, 07:39:46 PM »
I like your method of inletting the barrel and may have to look at a router plane. I inlet all of my barrels by hand, not bragging it's just what I do. There are many jobs that can be considered tedious about building a rifle and barrel inletting is definately one of those. I find it very rewarding to me though and I feel that I feel better in saying that I built the rifle when I start from a plank and end up with a rifle that works.  :P But that's just me, I do not knock anyone that has their's machine inlet. My hand inlet's will never be as precise as the machine inlet.
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Re: Inletting a Barrel with the Method I have been using
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2016, 01:13:44 AM »
That's a beautiful little router plane. Didn't know such a thing existed. Are these still made, or do you have to find an antique?

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Re: Inletting a Barrel with the Method I have been using
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2016, 02:37:26 AM »
That's a beautiful little router plane. Didn't know such a thing existed. Are these still made, or do you have to find an antique?

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Router planes are common on old tool websites. For new planes see leevalley.com

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Re: Inletting a Barrel with the Method I have been using
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2016, 08:03:59 PM »
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