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wbradbury

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Wear plate thickness
« on: February 15, 2016, 03:02:51 PM »
Looks like I am going to fix my "too low" ramrod hole (that's my recent post about the issue a few days back) by making a wear plate.  I want to keep it steel since the gun is iron mounted. What would be a decent thickness without overdoing it. Will

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Re: Wear plate thickness
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2016, 04:29:23 PM »
1/16" should be plenty.
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Re: Wear plate thickness
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2016, 04:47:17 PM »
I've seen old guns with .025 (estimated), but the plates get dented easily, and the edges tip out of the inlet. 1/32 minimum, especially if you're going to be carrying it across your saddle.
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Re: Wear plate thickness
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2016, 05:39:52 PM »
18 gauge is .048 and is what I use for a large inlay like this.    22 gauge is about.030 and getting a bit too thin and bends too easily during the building process.  20 might be good but hard to find at a local box store.

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Re: Wear plate thickness
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2016, 06:07:39 PM »
Log Cabin Shop has 20......just used some to make a wear plate....anneal it first, will form much easier.

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Re: Wear plate thickness
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2016, 07:27:24 PM »
Excellent! Thank you

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Re: Wear plate thickness
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2016, 11:11:50 PM »
I have used really thin steel sheet on the order of .020-.030" for a full length (guard to rear thimble) wear plate.   It was scrap that I had and steel wears pretty well.   I used black iron wire from Brownells as pins to hold it in place.   You drill your hole for the wire about .25-.5" deep.   Cut a .75" piece of wire and tap it in to the bottom of the hole through the steel sheet.   I drill the holes .002" under the size of the pins.  I slightly countersink the holes in the steel sheet.   Once the wire is seated in the hole,  trim it as close as possible to the plate with diagonal cutters.   Then pein the wire down to fill the countersink in the plate.   Everything gets filed flush when you are done.  

By the way,  steel sheet this thin does get dented and the dents from the peining remain.   However,  it looks just like an antique.    The E. TN I used this on looked like an antique when I was done.   Everybody who saw it was impressed.   Of course, if you are not going for an authentic look then a little thicker steel would be in order.   I would not go as thick as 1/16".  I think that much thicker than .030" is going to be hard to bend.   I routinely use 22ga steel sheet for the thimbles and nose piece on plain iron mounted guns.   That is close to what I have seen on originals.  I use .045" for thimbles that I am going to file, but that is not an authentic look. 
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Re: Wear plate thickness
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2016, 11:33:53 PM »
I have used really thin steel sheet on the order of .020-.030" for a full length (guard to rear thimble) wear plate.   It was scrap that I had and steel wears pretty well.   I used black iron wire from Brownells as pins to hold it in place.   You drill your hole for the wire about .25-.5" deep.   Cut a .75" piece of wire and tap it in to the bottom of the hole through the steel sheet.   I drill the holes .002" under the size of the pins.  I slightly countersink the holes in the steel sheet.   Once the wire is seated in the hole,  trim it as close as possible to the plate with diagonal cutters.   Then pein the wire down to fill the countersink in the plate.   Everything gets filed flush when you are done.  

By the way,  steel sheet this thin does get dented and the dents from the peining remain.   However,  it looks just like an antique.    The E. TN I used this on looked like an antique when I was done.   Everybody who saw it was impressed.   Of course, if you are not going for an authentic look then a little thicker steel would be in order.   I would not go as thick as 1/16".  I think that much thicker than .030" is going to be hard to bend.   I routinely use 22ga steel sheet for the thimbles and nose piece on plain iron mounted guns.   That is close to what I have seen on originals.  I use .045" for thimbles that I am going to file, but that is not an authentic look. 

Good info, thanks!

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Re: Wear plate thickness
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2016, 01:48:40 AM »
Since I'm new to this,  ;D it'd be nice to show me what.  ???