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Offline Mark Elliott

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Where do you get horn turning stock?
« on: February 20, 2016, 12:59:12 AM »
I just cut up the rest of the raw horns I had for turning stock.   I got two good tips (maybe) out of the six or seven (I lost count)  remaining horns.   The problem was voids.  It has been a very frustrating day as I spent a lot of time trying to turn around voids in two of the tips; without success.  Where do the rest of you get good turning stock?  
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Re: Where do you get turning stock?
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2016, 01:44:17 AM »
 Are you talking about horn tips to turn? If so, I have contacted 6 different people in the last week or so and no one has any tips to sell. I find it hard to buy tips sight unseen unless they come from another Horner, as they know what you need.
 If you find a source please share it with us.
 To help stop delaminating I find drilling and rough turning the stock as soon as possible after receipt. One batch had the ends painted to slow or stop the delamination but still had voids in them,

 Good Luck, Tim   

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Re: Where do you get turning stock?
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2016, 02:13:59 AM »
Yep.  That's what I am talking about.  I was hoping you had a source given all the screw tips you make.

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Re: Where do you get turning stock?
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2016, 04:01:19 AM »
Lee Larkin always has a box of tips for sale  - many suitable for turning.

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Re: Where do you get horn turning stock?
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2016, 04:51:40 AM »
Mark: try some of the knifemaker supply sites. I have always had good success with Masecraft.

http://masecraftsupply-com.3dcartstores.com/Horn-slabsrolls-and-pieces_c_291-3.html

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Re: Where do you get horn turning stock?
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2016, 08:09:12 AM »
I have actually picked up some good horn rolls on eBay.

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Re: Where do you get horn turning stock?
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2016, 05:01:57 PM »
You can get water buffalo horns at Petco and other places.  Used for horn tips on rifles.  It's black and takes a high polish.  I can see why it couldn't be used for turning stock.
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Re: Where do you get horn turning stock?
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2016, 11:42:55 PM »
What about Powder Horns & More?   They claim to have lots of polished horns and have black horn rolls which would work for some horns.   

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Re: Where do you get turning stock?
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2016, 11:53:38 PM »
Lee Larkin always has a box of tips for sale  - many suitable for turning.

 Got a note from Lee, seems since the drought in Texas the slaughter house he was getting them from has closed. So he has none to sell. In the past he was my go to guy.

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Re: Where do you get horn turning stock?
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2016, 12:17:41 AM »
What about Powder Horns & More?   They claim to have lots of polished horns and have black horn rolls which would work for some horns.  

 I am waiting to hear back from Jason at PHAM.  
  
  Also sent a message to Roland Cadle, I was referred to him but I have not heard back from him either.

   http://villagerestorations.com/procurements


 Posted a Want Add in the Classified but only got one reply, that was an offer to save them for me. Thanks Coryjoe.
 Guess its back to the Flea markets and Antique Malls.


  Tim C.

 
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Re: Where do you get horn turning stock?
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2016, 12:28:12 AM »
I have actually picked up some good horn rolls on eBay.

 What is a Horn Roll?
 I am looking for light colored horn that will take to coloring. Also to be used for collars.

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Re: Where do you get horn turning stock?
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2016, 01:01:02 AM »
I am thinking that I will just buy some of the less expensive polished horns from PHAM and cut the tips out of the ones with long/thick tips.   I have done that before and cut the rest of the horn up for rings.   I don't want to do that a lot though.   I already have a number of tip-less horns.  I guess I should start making horn boxes.  ;)

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Re: Where do you get horn turning stock?
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2016, 05:26:50 AM »
Crazy Crow has Amber horn rolls that take dye well

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Re: Where do you get horn turning stock?
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2016, 06:43:35 AM »
In the past 5 yrs or so,I have found pretty thick tipped horns at tandy leather. It was nice to walk in and hold them before buying. That was in Fort Worth Tx.

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Re: Where do you get horn turning stock?
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2016, 07:41:55 AM »
I have had issues with horn rolls similar to the voids in tips.  Very frustrating to turn them and they split because of weak points.  There just doesn't seem to be way to tell a good one from a bad one.

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Re: Where do you get horn turning stock?
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2016, 02:53:28 AM »
I find them anywhere I can! Sometimes you have to kiss a lot of frogs to find a Prince.

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Re: Where do you get horn turning stock?
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2016, 04:08:25 AM »
I have actually picked up some good horn rolls on eBay.

 What is a Horn Roll?
 I am looking for light colored horn that will take to coloring. Also to be used for collars.

   Tim C.

Tim, I think that any turned round horn piece is called a horn roll, due to  no better description.  Gerry at Powder Horns and More carry them, but I haven't seen any light colored ones on his website.  You might contact him and ask.  I have gotten a few lighter cow horn rolls off of eBay, as I mentioned, but they are far and few between.

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Re: Where do you get horn turning stock?
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2016, 05:45:25 AM »
For horn rolls I use eBay, search, "horn rolls knife"   Sellers name is mygann. 

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Re: Where do you get horn turning stock?
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2016, 09:53:08 PM »
For horn rolls I use eBay, search, "horn rolls knife"   Sellers name is mygann. 

Thanks,  I ordered two to see what they are like.   

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Re: Where do you get horn turning stock?
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2016, 02:40:14 AM »
I have actually picked up some good horn rolls on eBay.

 What is a Horn Roll?
 I am looking for light colored horn that will take to coloring. Also to be used for collars.

   Tim C.

Tim, I think that any turned round horn piece is called a horn roll, due to  no better description.  Gerry at Powder Horns and More carry them, but I haven't seen any light colored ones on his website.  You might contact him and ask.  I have gotten a few lighter cow horn rolls off of eBay, as I mentioned, but they are far and few between.

Rick

 Part of my problem I found today is that I emailed the wrong guy, he was nice enough to tell me. So tomorrow I will contact PHAM.

 Tim C.

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Re: Where do you get horn turning stock?
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2016, 05:49:35 AM »
Tim...A horn roll is like a jelly roll without the jelly.
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Re: Where do you get horn turning stock?
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2016, 07:47:03 AM »
You want a horn roll solid and not like a jelly roll or you will have problems.

There used to be a guy named Torres I believe who used to sell water buffalo horn tips in many sizes and lengths.  I used to buy some from him, but the quality went south, as I was getting to many tips with delamination centers.  Out of a dozen or so, I could only use two or three and spent more time and money sending them back for exchanging for solid tips.  Don't know what ever happened to him, as I tried to call him and his phone was shut off. That's been about four years ago.

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Re: Where do you get horn turning stock?
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2016, 05:13:07 PM »
 check out   www.pennstateind.com  they have some pen blanks and horn that might work. or Try www.woodturnerscatalog.com.
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Re: Where do you get horn turning stock?
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2016, 07:01:41 PM »
check out   www.pennstateind.com  they have some pen blanks and horn that might work. or Try www.woodturnerscatalog.com.

 Thanks for the leads but Pen blanks are a little small. As for the Antler tips on the one site, I think 36 bucks is high for 2-3 blanks that also look to be to small except if used for the tip piece on a two piece tip. The Buffalo tips, weather American Bison or Water are not what I would use on a horn. Picky? Yes

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Re: Where do you get horn turning stock?
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2016, 08:30:29 PM »
Tim, I don't know if you realize it or not, but all of the horn rolls for sale out there are Asian water buffalo and most come are imported from India.

Rick