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Re: Kibler .36 Walnut Kit
« Reply #75 on: June 16, 2016, 11:38:31 PM »
I'm finishing up a Whitson-inspired rifle right now (slab built, not from Jim's kit).  My toe plate and patchbox are modeled directly from those on one of the original Whitson guns shown on Jim's website though.


Doing it the hard way eh? ;)
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Re: Kibler .36 Walnut Kit
« Reply #76 on: June 16, 2016, 11:41:35 PM »
Here's a long toe plate for you. This is back from my "iron mounted phase" ;)

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Re: Kibler .36 Walnut Kit
« Reply #77 on: June 17, 2016, 02:41:49 AM »
Sorry for being late to the game here...  As to the toe plate, this sort of thing is pretty subjective...   I often have strong feelings about these things too, though. 

Everybody has different ideas of what they are trying to accomplish.  People see these things from very different perspectives. 

My personal preference is to base design at least in some small degree to some historical precedent.  As people so often say, it's important to study original work.  At least  in my view...     Having this approach, it becomes pretty obvious when someone has less regard for original pieces.

When designs have at least a little historical footing, they seem to turn out much better in my view.  These designs can be expanded on, made more elaborate, etc. and be magnificent.  But it's still important to keep a certain flavor. 

So, as to this project, I think it could be made dead plain and be really nice.  On the other hand, if the right sort of design details were used, it could probably be made much more elaborate and be fantastic. 


Your project is looking great, Kingsburyarms!  Looks like it's about wrapped up.  Thanks for sharing.

Jim

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Re: Kibler .36 Walnut Kit
« Reply #78 on: June 17, 2016, 03:54:26 AM »
Hey qauldwig could you plz show us the rest of that rifle?Would love to see it.

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Re: Kibler .36 Walnut Kit
« Reply #79 on: June 17, 2016, 12:25:59 PM »
Hey qauldwig could you plz show us the rest of that rifle?Would love to see it.

I don't want to completely hijack this thread.  I'll post some pix this weekend under the"current projects" topic. 

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Re: Kibler .36 Walnut Kit
« Reply #80 on: June 17, 2016, 12:27:00 PM »
I'm finishing up a Whitson-inspired rifle right now (slab built, not from Jim's kit).  My toe plate and patchbox are modeled directly from those on one of the original Whitson guns shown on Jim's website though.


Doing it the hard way eh? ;)

About the only way I know how!  :D

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Re: Kibler .36 Walnut Kit
« Reply #81 on: June 19, 2016, 11:03:39 PM »
While waiting for the new Toe Plate Steel - I filed, filed and filed some more, then polished, ready for "Grey - Bluing" The barrel was ready just with a little draw filing on each "side"



The "Before"



The "After"



Parts and Pieces:




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Re: Kibler .36 Walnut Kit
« Reply #82 on: June 20, 2016, 12:01:12 AM »
Those castings came out looking pretty good didn't they.Keep up the good work Kingsbury.

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Re: Kibler .36 Walnut Kit
« Reply #83 on: June 20, 2016, 12:05:12 AM »
Here's a toe plate i did on a SMR a couple of years back.



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Re: Kibler .36 Walnut Kit
« Reply #84 on: June 20, 2016, 01:25:05 AM »
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While waiting for the new Toe Plate Steel
Are you growing a new one or something? :P

Hey PPatch, Don't be showing him stuff like that , I'm trying to break him of some bad habits..... ;D
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Re: Kibler .36 Walnut Kit
« Reply #85 on: June 20, 2016, 03:18:29 AM »
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While waiting for the new Toe Plate Steel
Are you growing a new one or something? :P

Hey PPatch, Don't be showing him stuff like that , I'm trying to break him of some bad habits..... ;D
To funny Mike ;D

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Re: Kibler .36 Walnut Kit
« Reply #86 on: June 20, 2016, 03:42:43 AM »
"Hey PPatch, Don't be showing him stuff like that , I'm trying to break him of some bad habits....."

LOLOLOLOLOLOL  :D

Now there's no need to retard his education Mike. He has to see as many options as possible in order to make an informed choice.  ;)

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Re: Kibler .36 Walnut Kit
« Reply #87 on: June 20, 2016, 04:54:30 AM »
Mike, Joe, PPatch, Et. Al.

My goal is simple - Stay true and honest to Jim's vision... With some Quality control from Mike and others (who I hold in the highest regard). For this build, simple, clean and Historically accurate is in order -

We learn from what we see, we learn from what we read, but we best learn from what was real and presented to us as facts, and I need to keep all of that in mind - Key reminders of form and style lie within the skills of this forum, the craftsmen of the past, current and future, and the new generation of what will be.

"For if we forget our past, our future will be distorted"

I think what you will see next will be better suited.

Jon  

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Re: Kibler .36 Walnut Kit
« Reply #88 on: June 21, 2016, 05:26:25 AM »
$125?

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Re: Kibler .36 Walnut Kit
« Reply #89 on: June 21, 2016, 05:55:02 AM »
:) - Add a few "00"'s

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Re: Kibler .36 Walnut Kit
« Reply #90 on: June 21, 2016, 06:47:45 AM »
Fair enough. You are going with the ducks unlimited camo finish right?  As seen on tv?  Looks great. Glad to see your not in a rush. On the edge of my seat with the toe plate delemma. I will definatly stay tuned to find out what happens. Don't remember if it was mentioned, but what caliber is your rifle?

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Re: Kibler .36 Walnut Kit
« Reply #91 on: June 21, 2016, 02:31:34 PM »
It's a .36 - I received the new toe plate steel last night - I'll have some pictures soon, and it will be finished with a natural Walnut.

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Re: Kibler .36 Walnut Kit
« Reply #92 on: June 21, 2016, 02:53:57 PM »
Ok I'm blind. What's the hard way ?

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Re: Kibler .36 Walnut Kit
« Reply #93 on: June 22, 2016, 05:23:17 AM »
Ok I'm blind. What's the hard way ?

I took it to mean building a Whitson rifle from a blank instead of from Jim's Whitson rifle kit.   ;D

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Re: Kibler .36 Walnut Kit
« Reply #94 on: June 22, 2016, 07:22:44 AM »
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While waiting for the new Toe Plate Steel
Are you growing a new one or something? :P

Hey PPatch, Don't be showing him stuff like that , I'm trying to break him of some bad habits..... ;D
If builders keep this up we are going to need the moderators to start a new discussion board called "pimp my rifle".  :o
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Re: Kibler .36 Walnut Kit
« Reply #95 on: June 22, 2016, 03:29:16 PM »
Hey  we could start are own tv show pimp our rifles.

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Re: Kibler .36 Walnut Kit
« Reply #96 on: June 23, 2016, 05:38:33 AM »
Hey  we could start are own tv show pimp our rifles.

I would just fill up with black plastic.  >:(
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Re: Kibler .36 Walnut Kit
« Reply #97 on: June 23, 2016, 01:23:07 PM »
OK - Back on Track, no "Pimping" here - New Toe plate installed with "hand made" screws, and I "Greyed" the lock and re-assembled.





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Re: Kibler .36 Walnut Kit
« Reply #98 on: June 23, 2016, 02:00:37 PM »
I like it!  ;)  Nice work!  Save the other toe plate for another project (trust me, there WILL be another, and another, and...).  ;D

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Re: Kibler .36 Walnut Kit
« Reply #99 on: June 23, 2016, 02:53:56 PM »
There, now I feel better, thanks. ;D

Did you know you have somewhere around 42 chisels in that picture? :o
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