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Offline Lucky R A

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Kibler-yet again
« on: June 11, 2016, 07:50:32 PM »
    A little while ago Jim offered one of his kits that had a minor boo boo.  The ram rod drill had wandered into the barrel channel about 4" in front of the breech.  Not a hard fix, particularly when using a single bolt for the lock.  The kit was in 40 val. with a $200 wood upgrade.   
     I rarely build from a kit, except when a client commissions me to do so.  I thus have limited experience with kits.  I found Jim's kit to be exceptionally high quality in fit and design.  I was able to assemble the kit as shipped in 4 hours using only a hand drill and a few other small hand tools.   I added a double end box and a small simple cheek piece inlay.  I kept the stain dark to show off the metal finish.  I am sure that we will see all kinds of "customizing" of the basic kit, but this is my effort. 
Best wishes,
Ron



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Re: Kibler-yet again
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2016, 07:57:10 PM »
Wow!!  That a very sharp looking rifle!!


Would you mind me asking how you did the metal?? 

That's exactly the finish I'd love to get on my current build..I'm not sure how to get it though...

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Re: Kibler-yet again
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2016, 08:01:30 PM »
Fine looking rifle gun! Well done.

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Re: Kibler-yet again
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2016, 08:33:13 PM »
Very Very nice!!! _

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Re: Kibler-yet again
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2016, 08:37:28 PM »
Great rifle Ron!
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Re: Kibler-yet again
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2016, 08:39:52 PM »
Great Ron!!
You are someone who can make a good kit look even better.

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Re: Kibler-yet again
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2016, 08:57:45 PM »
Very nice, like the metal finish

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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2016, 09:21:06 PM »
As usual Ron... very nice!!!
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Re: Kibler-yet again
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2016, 09:38:55 PM »
I remember when that was for sale. It was a beautiful piece of wood, I would have bought it if I had the money, it's good to see it done so well. It t looks great.
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« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2016, 09:43:20 PM »
 Classic

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Re: Kibler-yet again
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2016, 10:04:35 PM »
Thats nice! I like that double box.

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« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2016, 10:17:08 PM »
Great looking rifle ;D Excellent work
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Re: Kibler-yet again
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2016, 11:46:37 PM »
I like the box. In fact I like all of gun except for the cheek inlay, for me it really stops the flow in the architecture. I'd rather see a muzzle cap.... ;) Nice mellow antique job too. I think this is the first antiqued one I have seen very nice.
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Re: Kibler-yet again
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2016, 11:48:49 PM »
But how does she shoot?

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« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2016, 12:29:27 AM »
WOW!  That is everything I envisioned in my mind when I saw the raw kits.  I love the deep finish on the wood and the metal patina is super.  The patchbox and the moon inlay are just right.  For someone who doesn't do kits, and didn't spend long, it came out wonderful.  Someone is going to be veeeery happy.  Best wishes,   Marc

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Re: Kibler-yet again
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2016, 12:43:34 AM »
Very nice job, Ron. Love it.
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« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2016, 03:18:23 AM »
I really like the finish, both wood and metal.
Looks great to me on that style gun.

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Re: Kibler-yet again
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2016, 04:37:51 AM »
Very nicely done, however, for some reason, I find myself agreeing with Mike on the cheek-piece inlay. Perhaps being so large, it just stands out and removes the flow of the lines. Course, if we were all the same - no variety in that.
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Re: Kibler-yet again
« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2016, 04:50:10 AM »
I have only built guns from T/C, Lyman, CVA, Traditions, etc., but my opinion is OUTSTANDING!!!
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« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2016, 06:37:33 AM »
What do you guys think of a pewter decorative nose cap on these rifles like some of the old mountain rifles had along with a patchbox?
I almost have my hand made box completed along with inletting and really want to add the pewter nose cap but don't want to distract from the historical overall appearance of this kit. This is my first build and something that I want to really be proud of when finished. I learned a lot in the class from Jim that I will be able to apply on any future builds. :-\
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Re: Kibler-yet again
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2016, 07:20:56 AM »
You may have opened a can of works asking for an opinion Mossy, and this is a great place to get them. Some very knowledgeable folks here. If you're going for historical accuracy you'll hear ten arguments for or against just about any question you ask. But it's your rifle. The only opinion that counts is yours. Make it to suit your taste. And good luck!

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Re: Kibler-yet again
« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2016, 07:23:21 PM »
That's real nice, Ron.  Thanks so much for sharing the photos.  Thanks for the message you sent as well.  Your feedback is really appreciated.

All the best,
Jim

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Re: Kibler-yet again
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2016, 11:14:45 PM »
Nose Caps -

I just looked at the mountain rifle section of Bill Ivie's book of North Carolina rifles.

Here's the answer.  From what I can see, maybe 2/3 or 3/4 of the mountain rifles HAVE nose caps.  Some look to be poured pewter, some brass, some dark (steel or dark turned brass?). 

So, you could go either way. 

Hope this helps.   Marc

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« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2016, 11:15:42 PM »
I just looked at your photos again Ron.  That is one beautiful rifle.  A tip of my hat to you and Jim.  God Bless,   Marc

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Re: Kibler-yet again
« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2016, 04:57:29 AM »
Ron well done. Nice looking rifle. Like that dark stain.