Author Topic: Is you flinter this fast? (Read 8177 times)

EC121 · « **on:** July 05, 2016, 02:59:24 AM »

While we were testing the cotton duck patching today, Sqrldog shot a video of my Barker rifle going off. His is just as fast. Late Ketland lock. 1/16" touch hole. Full pan of Null B priming but 4f is about the same. Pletch says Null B is faster but only for the test equipment not human perception. www.bricestultzhisblog.blogspot.com

bob in the woods · « **Reply #1 on:** July 05, 2016, 03:04:04 PM »

Candle Snuffer · « **Reply #2 on:** July 05, 2016, 03:56:27 PM »

I'm pretty sure it is. I prime with Goex 4fg, and all my flintlock rifles seem very fast to me, so much so that I really don't feel they are slow at all.

JohnnyFM · « **Reply #3 on:** July 05, 2016, 04:12:13 PM »

Yep, fast. I've got two with the Chambers Siler. Even my old Hatfield is fast once I found the right size flint. Prime with Goex 4ffff. I've shot the .53 cal with the Chambers lock primed with 3fff and she's reliable but I notice a wee bit slower on some shots but not enough to make a difference on the target.

PPatch · « **Reply #4 on:** July 05, 2016, 05:49:48 PM »

I'd say the two I shoot regularly, a 50 with a siler (Goex 3f) and a 36 cal (the same, 3f) with a Chambers late ketland fire that fast. It surprises those who have the impression that a flintlock is inherently slow to fire. Click/KA-BOOM! is the way she goes, an almost imperceptible 'delay.' I often use Goex 4f for primer.

dave

P.W.Berkuta · « **Reply #5 on:** July 05, 2016, 06:45:31 PM »

Quote from: EC121 on July 05, 2016, 02:59:24 AM

While we were testing the cotton duck patching today, Sqrldog shot a video of my Barker rifle going off. His is just as fast. Late Ketland lock. 1/16" touch hole. Full pan of Null B priming but 4f is about the same. Pletch says Null B is faster but only for the test equipment not human perception. www.bricestultzhisblog.blogspot.com

MAN that is FAST!!!

EC121 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 05, 2016, 06:55:13 PM »

So many people have formed their flintlock ideas from the movies. They have never seen a good working flintlock. The hog I killed recently had the rifle primed with 3F because I couldn't find my primer in the dark. I used a bit of one of my premeasured loads instead. Seemed to be just about as fast from a windowsill rest in a shooting house while concentrating on the hog. While watching the hog and squeezing the single trigger, I never felt the trigger break. The rifle just went "Boom!".

Daryl · « **Reply #7 on:** July 05, 2016, 07:54:15 PM »

My .36 ( frizzen re-hardened and tempered by Taylor) and new .50 seem about identical. My old .45, sold to one of our guys, with an L&R Dickert lock, about the same as well.

sqrldog · « **Reply #8 on:** July 06, 2016, 03:38:39 PM »

I think mine is actually just a tiny bit faster.😊 Tim Cosby

L. Akers · « **Reply #9 on:** July 06, 2016, 06:26:13 PM »

I have one that is fast enough to elicit comments about the speed from fellow shooters. The BOOM coincides with the trigger break. I'm not aware of hearing the flint strike the frizzen. Rifle has an L&R late english lock and a Nock patent breech.

hanshi · « **Reply #10 on:** July 06, 2016, 10:59:25 PM »

Yes, my .45 Lancaster with a large Siler lock is just as fast. My .50 with the Chambers GA lock is seemingly equal as is my .40 Lancaster/Siler lock. I prime with 4F FWIW.

Mike Brooks · « **Reply #11 on:** July 07, 2016, 12:35:59 AM »

I think my gun may be 100X faster than everyone's gun.

Frizzen · « **Reply #12 on:** July 07, 2016, 02:24:06 AM »

It can't be, because my Thompson Center is ! 😂 And, And, it even fires upside down!

Bob Roller · « **Reply #13 on:** July 07, 2016, 02:29:16 AM »

Quote from: Frizzen on July 07, 2016, 02:24:06 AM

It can't be, because my Thompson Center is ! 😂 And, And, it even fires upside down!

Fires upside down because prime is falling into the sparks.

Bob Roller

smylee grouch · « **Reply #14 on:** July 07, 2016, 03:08:35 AM »

I think mine is just as fast, even when I primed with 1&1/2 Swiss on last springs Manitoba Bear hunt.

Don Steele · « **Reply #15 on:** July 07, 2016, 12:49:26 PM »

Quote from: L. Akers on July 06, 2016, 06:26:13 PM

I have one that is fast enough to elicit comments about the speed from fellow shooters. The BOOM coincides with the trigger break. I'm not aware of hearing the flint strike the frizzen. Rifle has an L&R late english lock and a Nock patent breech.

I read your response, especially noting the comment about ...."hearing the flint strike the frizzen".
I'm shooting a Chambers Large Siler, primed with Swiss Null B. It has been my observation that if I hear the flint striking and scraping down the face of the frizzen...it's time to touch up the edge of the rock.
Doing so gets me back to the point where it's all one "sound" without discernible parts to it.
I'm curious if others have made similar observations.

Robby · « **Reply #16 on:** July 07, 2016, 03:23:02 PM »

I might not be fast, but I'm pretty slow.
Robby

nosrettap1958 · « **Reply #17 on:** July 07, 2016, 03:25:27 PM »

I would like to say mine is but watching that video again, man that is fast.

bones92 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 08, 2016, 04:57:35 PM »

Nice. I can barely hear the sound of the lock and primer before the main charge goes off.

EC121 · « **Reply #19 on:** July 08, 2016, 08:50:16 PM »

At my age and hearing loss I religiously use earplugs(NRR 33) and lately muffs(NRR 33) over the plugs( They do help.) to prevent any more damage. So, I have to go by the feel. If I get a bit of hesitation, I work on the rock. The flint in the video cracked in half on that shot. I had to replace it with a good sharp one. While I don't hear the flint impact, I think that sometimes I "hear" the trigger bar hit the sear bar or possibly the flint hitting the frizzen in my cheekbone. Sort of a click before the gun fires. That might also be a tip off to check the edge of the flint.

hanshi · « **Reply #20 on:** July 08, 2016, 10:17:44 PM »

My .45, especially, is really fast and fires just a fraction prior to the flint touching the frizzen.

EC121 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 08, 2016, 10:21:55 PM »

I want one of those "anticipation locks".

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Author Topic: Is you flinter this fast? (Read 8177 times)

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