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Offline D. Taylor Sapergia

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Single set trigger from an English pistol
« on: October 22, 2016, 11:58:13 PM »
Bob Roller has asked me to post some images of a nice single set trigger.  He will add to this description in due course.












« Last Edit: October 24, 2016, 07:07:30 PM by D. Taylor Sapergia »
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Offline Bob Roller

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Re: Single set trigger from an English pistol
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2016, 02:44:58 PM »
This is the trigger from the remains of the Fenton target pistol given to me by Lynton McKenzie around 1979.
I made a few copies of it and the German "Suhlerstecher"in 1980 and then stopped making any of them.
This design is adjustable by the tightening and loosening of the sear spring screw.The best ones had an external
screw in the trigger that rested under the sear. It is the commonly seen French design and a good one as well.
Thanks for posting this so all can see it.

Bob Roller
« Last Edit: October 25, 2016, 04:49:37 AM by Ky-Flinter »

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Re: Single set trigger from an English pistol
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2016, 02:48:48 PM »
Hi,
Beautiful Bob and Taylor.  It looks like the style to go on a pair of percussion dueling/target pistols by Purdey.  They had  elegant and rakish lines.

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Re: Single set trigger from an English pistol
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2016, 04:00:04 PM »
Nice trigger--will work set or unset.  The only problem I see with this design is when used set, the trigger will jump away from the finger when tripped--not conducive to accuracy.

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Re: Single set trigger from an English pistol
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2016, 07:10:52 PM »
Nice trigger--will work set or unset.  The only problem I see with this design is when used set, the trigger will jump away from the finger when tripped--not conducive to accuracy.

I have seen other guys write this statement as well, Akers, however this 'type' of trigger has NEVER been a problem for me, accuracy wise.  In fact, I think the jumping style is normal for single set as well as on one double set, double throw  trigger on on one of my modern rat-rifles.
This particular rifle has made a number of groups at 100 meters sub 3/8" & a few sub .1". The jumping trigger has not been a problem, nor it is a problem on Taylor's .60 cal "Hawken" Pistol. Incredible accuracy.
« Last Edit: October 23, 2016, 07:13:57 PM by Daryl »
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Re: Single set trigger from an English pistol
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2016, 08:51:21 PM »
Any exploded details, eh?  ???

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Re: Single set trigger from an English pistol
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2016, 12:16:05 AM »
Nice trigger--will work set or unset.  The only problem I see with this design is when used set, the trigger will jump away from the finger when tripped--not conducive to accuracy.

I have seen other guys write this statement as well, Akers, however this 'type' of trigger has NEVER been a problem for me, accuracy wise.  In fact, I think the jumping style is normal for single set as well as on one double set, double throw  trigger on on one of my modern rat-rifles.
This particular rifle has made a number of groups at 100 meters sub 3/8" & a few sub .1". The jumping trigger has not been a problem, nor it is a problem on Taylor's .60 cal "Hawken" Pistol. Incredible accuracy.

The "Suhlerstecher" I mentioned earlier will not  jump away from your finger. It is a different mechanical function.
I would think a noticeable jump would mean the distance between the release bar and the sear in the lock is too
wide and will allow that much movement. The Suhlerstecher originated in Suhl which at one time was a big
gun making city where all kinds of ideas came to fruition pertaining to guns.

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Re: Single set trigger from an English pistol
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2016, 12:27:45 AM »
Any exploded details, eh?  ???

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Re: Single set trigger from an English pistol
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2016, 07:07:48 PM »





Here's a couple images of the trigger set partially disassembled.
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Re: Single set trigger from an English pistol
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2016, 07:40:41 PM »
Hi,
Thanks for that Taylor.  It is almost identical to the diagram of a dueling pistol "hair" trigger shown in John George's book on English pistols and revolvers.

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Re: Single set trigger from an English pistol
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2016, 12:35:56 AM »





Here's a couple images of the trigger set partially disassembled.

The sear was held in by a very small pin and I didn't realize it and assumed another small
screw was used so I couldn't get it apart.This is a fine quality trigger.

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Re: Single set trigger from an English pistol
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2016, 05:39:31 AM »
Very nice, thanks for posting it Bob & Taylor!

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