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Offline lexington1

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Signature on early Reading/Lancasterish rifle
« on: November 06, 2016, 10:07:35 PM »
I may have posted this before, but any thoughts as to who signed their name on this barrel?



It belongs to this rifle



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Re: Signature on early Reading/Lancasterish rifle
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2016, 11:03:36 PM »
Rub over the signature with a yellow or white wax crayon and then burnish it off so it only stays in the signature.  Then take a close up pic at an oblique angle rather than straight on.  It'll make it infinitely more readable.
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Re: Signature on early Reading/Lancasterish rifle
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2016, 01:41:57 AM »
Thanks, I'll try that!
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Re: Signature on early Reading/Lancasterish rifle
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2016, 01:51:38 AM »
Now that's a fine looking rifle, and good luck with the name!
John
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Re: Signature on early Reading/Lancasterish rifle
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2016, 02:16:12 AM »
Thanks John. I picked this up from a mighty fine gentleman who I shall be eternally grateful to. This one is going to drive me crazy trying to figure it out though!
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Re: Signature on early Reading/Lancasterish rifle
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2016, 02:46:56 AM »
Beautiful rifle. Love that patchbox release.

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Re: Signature on early Reading/Lancasterish rifle
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2016, 03:05:52 AM »
Starts with a G or C ends with a gham   or Cham to My eye but I can't find anyone in the book that way
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Re: Signature on early Reading/Lancasterish rifle
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2016, 02:12:24 PM »
Hi,
Could it be "Gibbon"?

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Re: Signature on early Reading/Lancasterish rifle
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2016, 05:37:08 PM »
Definitely looks like it ends in "an" to me. Not enough "humps" to be a proper cursive "m".
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Re: Signature on early Reading/Lancasterish rifle
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2016, 05:53:43 PM »
John or James Cunningham, Hartford County, Maryland and Virginia 1776- ?
Committee of Safety Muskets and repairs, listed in Sellers?

Signature appears to me to be J CunninGham, with an artistic flair at the end...just my 2d's









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Re: Signature on early Reading/Lancasterish rifle
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2016, 08:42:09 PM »
Here is a couple more shots of the signature





Here is a name engraved on the box cover lid

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Re: Signature on early Reading/Lancasterish rifle
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2016, 08:47:26 PM »
Those make it look like "T C & ??han" to my eyes and T. G. Moure
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Re: Signature on early Reading/Lancasterish rifle
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2016, 06:54:46 AM »
And, where is the J G Moore located?
Perhaps on the patchbox ...owner of the gun?
Just curious, great gun though  :)
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Re: Signature on early Reading/Lancasterish rifle
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2016, 05:02:00 PM »
Oops, didn't see the notation of the location of the signature on the patchbox lid... :P
And, does look like Moure on the big screen...there are some of those listed in Sellers as well, but probably a coincidence ???
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Re: Signature on early Reading/Lancasterish rifle
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2016, 05:27:28 AM »
I think it says Wolfgang Haga.........
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Re: Signature on early Reading/Lancasterish rifle
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2016, 05:33:47 PM »
Given the "TG" and what I thought looked currently like "TC" are clearly in the same hand and are very similar, they may both be "TG." Considering the "&" perhaps this rifle was built by T. G. Moure and a second maker in a partnership. This is of course all broad speculation without much to back it since we have yet to actually been able to identify who T. G. Moure is and what the second name even says.
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Re: Signature on early Reading/Lancasterish rifle
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2016, 08:48:30 PM »
A lot of great thoughts. Keep em coming! Here is a link to a lot of pictures to the rifle:

 http://s155.photobucket.com/user/theresasink/library/Early%20Reading%20Lancaster?sort=3&page=1

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