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Offline Long Ears

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Quick question
« on: November 15, 2016, 05:42:37 AM »
I know, it has nothing to do with LONG rifles but everyone thinks when you build guns you fix them also. A friend dropped by and has a CVA Mountain rifle that the nipple blew out of the drum. On further inspection the threads for the nipple are trashed from being cross threaded ::). Does anyone know where I might find a new drum for this Spanish made rifle? If I have to make it the cost will be more than the rifle is worth. Thanks, Bob

Offline sdilts

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Re: Quick question
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2016, 01:57:05 PM »
I found one at Dixie Gun Works a while back.

Offline Mike Brooks

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Re: Quick question
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2016, 03:25:57 PM »
Do like I do. Hand it back to him and say "I don't fix guns". ;D
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Offline Silverfox

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Re: Quick question
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2016, 03:48:45 PM »
Check Deer Creek Products, Waldron, Indiana.  They carry CVA and Traditions parts.
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Re: Quick question
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2016, 05:12:43 PM »
You have to be very careful of the CVA breeches.  CVA uses a system of inegrating the breech and the drum so that the drum is threaded into both the barrel and the breech then drilling the passage to the powder chamber.  ITs almost impossible to remove the drum and replace it.  Your best bet might be to go to a larger threaded nipple and drill and tap the existing drum for the larger threads.



That's the breech and drum you are likely dealing with, so be careful.
« Last Edit: November 22, 2016, 05:29:17 PM by Mike_StL »

Offline bama

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Re: Quick question
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2016, 07:08:19 PM »
I would drill the drum for an oversized nipple and put a next size up nipple in. This is done all of the time for old percussion shotguns where the nipples need to be replaced and the old nipples are frozen into the breech. They drill out the old nipple and retap with the next size up tap. I bought a complete set of taps that are made to do this and the nipples to match for a minimal price. I would tell the guy if he is willing to buy the taps and nipples then I would do the job for 20 bucks or so for my labor. If he does not want to put that much into the gun then do like Mike says which is probably the best thing to do anyway.  ;D

Here is a link to TOW tap set https://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/1046/1/TOOL-RETAP-SET-5
« Last Edit: November 22, 2016, 07:13:25 PM by bama »
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Re: Quick question
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2016, 09:25:41 PM »
 A real good gunsmith can fix this as good as new and has the tools to do it.  The problem I have found is people who own a gun like this never want to pay for the job.
 
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Re: Quick question
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2016, 09:53:55 PM »
This picture also illustrates the folly of those trying to convert their CVA from percussion to flint.  The danger is obvious.



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