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Offline Maurice

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Inlay patina
« on: February 16, 2017, 06:42:39 PM »
Trying to achieve a slate-grayish color patina for a inlay design. Any experience out there with chemically or otherwise treating German silver to achieve that look. Or any experience - good/bad/drawbacks - with using pewter as an inlay material. Want a dull finish versus one that shines. Something like an old lead round ball.

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Re: Inlay patina
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2017, 08:58:39 PM »
I've had success with using different cold blue solutions.  Try several and see which ones you like best.

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Re: Inlay patina
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2017, 10:42:22 PM »
I've used 44-40 cold blue to give various patinas on brass and silver.

I don't use it as a steel blue, because it rusts whatever it touches.
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Re: Inlay patina
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2017, 03:13:25 AM »
liver not flower(fixed it) of sulphur works for me got it from rio-grande

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Re: Inlay patina
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2017, 07:16:01 AM »
flower of sulphur works for me got it from rio-grande

Steve

Did you mean "liver" of sulphur instead of "flower of sulphur?    I use Liver of Sulphur gel which gently darkens nonferrous metals.

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Re: Inlay patina
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2017, 05:32:26 PM »
Liver of sulfur will turn sterling silver black as coal if overdone even a little. I haven't had much luck with it aging German silver.

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Re: Inlay patina
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2017, 10:09:43 PM »
Well, German Silver isn't silver, its Copper, Nickel and Zinc.

Something that darkens copper might darken german silver.

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Re: Inlay patina
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2017, 05:47:02 AM »
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Did you mean "liver" of sulphur instead of "flower of sulphur?

 Yep---fixed it---and as you pointed out it is much less agressive(which I prefer) in darkening brass than some other stuff I've used.

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Offline Maurice

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Re: Inlay patina
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2017, 06:14:33 PM »
Thanks for all the responses. Simplified my inlay design to use all brass instead of a german silver/brass combo. I experimented on the brass with a product used in stained glass work for putting a black patina on solder and lead. It contains "nitric acid and selenium compounds". Gives a blackish/dark gray patina to brass which is very resistant to rub-off. Very close to the color I want. Have not tried the cold blue suggestion yet.

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Re: Inlay patina
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2017, 07:54:28 PM »
Take a little powder residue off your flintlock with a small wet paintbrush or finger and brush or rub it on the inlay.
To me it makes a very realistic patina. ;)