1/2 Stock flint rifles

[Old Ford2]

Where can I find pictures and information on 1/2 stock flint rifles?
Please help.
Fred

[Cades Cove Fiddler]

  ....Website for Sitting Fox Muzzleloaders shows one of his fine TENNESSEE  halfstock rifles..... ALSO, on Jim Parkers site, Calvary Longrifles, an original Charles Bean halfstock TENNESSEE rifle is shown in multiple photo shots...I own an original halfstock, unmarked percussion TENNESSEE rifle with all iron fittings & 46" barrel.....I like the look....   

[Herb]

Here is a .58 halfstock flint plains rifle I built.  If this interests you, I can give you details, which are on this site.

[greybeard]

About 24 yrs ago I wanted a half stock flint rifle gun and this is what I thought a late period  flint gun might look like. At that time Muzzle Blast was the only referance I had for  flint guns.It is my fanticy
piece. May not be histoicaly correct but I like it.  Bob


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[Bob Roller]

Where can I find pictures and information on 1/2 stock flint rifles?
Please help.
Fred

I think Daryl published some pictures of really elegant English half stock
flintlock rifles.Maybe he will do it again if he sees this.

Bob Roller

[Old Ford2]

Hello all, and thank you the information that you offered, however my interest is towards a Lancaster-ish type half stock. .Perhaps even an Armstrong variant.
I really thought that your telepathy was in tune with me.
Weird isn't it.
Fred

[Mike Brooks]

Originals built in America are quite rare. I'm not sure I have ever seen a Lancaster example but I'm sure somebody will prove me wrong. Also, I'd not bet the farm on the information or gun styles on certain websites.

[45-110]

hello
let us not forget to have a look at the m1803/1819 Harpers Ferry rifle, which may or may not be the first American 1/2 stock rifle of note.
kw

[ajcraig]

New England militia rifles - private rifles not muskets - often were half-stocked with a wooden under rib.

[JCKelly]

Might want to look in the Old Testament (a.k.a. Dillin) Plate 7, Laidacker Collection, rifles 1 & 2

No. 1, C.T. Stahl 60 balls to the pound. Sellers lists him as Lancaster, PA, 1810 - 1817, flintlock Kentucky.

No. 2, I.G. Wren, 120 balls to the pound. Sellers says I.G. Wren, unlocated, flintlock Kentucky.

This question has come up before, fairly recently. Think I recall could be one in
The Longrifles of Western Pennsylvania: Allegheny and Westmoreland Counties,, R. Rosenberger & C. Kaufmann ©1993 Not sure though.

Since early '51 I have been in love with that C.T. Stahl.

[Joe S.]

There's a few around,Captchee posted one from a Texas collection,probably built in PA.I posted one thats a museum piece but can't remember the darn museum.If you do enough digging on the internet you will find them but as Mike said they are rare.Thinking there's one attributed to J.Kuntz???could be wrong on that one

[jerrywh]

 This is a example of a English Rifle made for presentation to the Indian chiefs in Canada during the war of 1812. About 200 of these were made and some others that were over under with a rifle on top and a 20 Ga. on the bottom. These originally came in 55 caliber. I made this gun about 7 or 8 years ago. It now belongs to a member of this forum.

[Old Ford2]

Awesome looking rifle!
Bet you won't find another like that at Walmart!
Fred

[Daryl]

There are two fairly early half- stock flint rifles in this picture.
The top right is a 6 bore - .920 calibre.  The second one down is much smaller, perhaps only a 28 bore or so.



here is an original 13 bore



And My little gun for ball and shot.




Here is Dphar's 16 bore rifle.




This is an HWhall 11 bore ball and shot gun,meant for both due to it's weight, size of breech and length of tube - 36". The same gun could easily have been built in flint.

[Bob Roller]

This is a example of a English Rifle made for presentation to the Indian chiefs in Canada during the war of 1812. About 200 of these were made and some others that were over under with a rifle on top and a 20 Ga. on the bottom. These originally came in 55 caliber. I made this gun about 7 or 8 years ago. It now belongs to a member of this forum.

This one stands out like a goose egg in a bucket of coal. This kind of craftsmanship should
be an inspiration to others to try and do a better job. The lock is beautiful and I would like to
know where the external parts came from. Thank you muchly for posting this picture.

Bob Roller

[oldtravler61]

   Well said Bob. Jerry does outstanding work. That is one well executed work of art.   Mike

[greybeard]

This is a example of a English Rifle made for presentation to the Indian chiefs in Canada during the war of 1812. About 200 of these were made and some others that were over under with a rifle on top and a 20 Ga. on the bottom. These originally came in 55 caliber. I made this gun about 7 or 8 years ago. It now belongs to a member of this forum.

Makes my little half stock look rather ordinary or sure.!!    greybeard

[Mike Brooks]

That is THE Huddleston gun I would like to own.

[jerrywh]

 Thanks guys. I think Keith Lisle owns this gun now.  Bob that lock is a Pedersoli Mortimer plate and frizzen with a French style hammer I think I bought from Blackley. I had to stretch the hammer about 1/8". The throw was too short. The internals were remodeled. I made a new main spring for it because the Pedersoli spring was too mushy. I annealed the plate and engraved it then case hardened it again.
  I shot two deer with that gun. I got one through the heart at 135 yards. It has a two bladed rear sight.  One blade is for 150 yards. The other for 100. It has an inset breach.

[Old Ford2]

This is a example of a English Rifle made for presentation to the Indian chiefs in Canada during the war of 1812. About 200 of these were made and some others that were over under with a rifle on top and a 20 Ga. on the bottom. These originally came in 55 caliber. I made this gun about 7 or 8 years ago. It now belongs to a member of this forum.

Hey guys,
I think this boy knows how to make a gun !!
Do ya think?

Fred

[jerrywh]

 Bob roller
  here is the finished lock on that rifle.

[Old Ford2]

Hi,
I must say that the rifle shown by Mr. Huddleson is awesome.
Thank you for taking the time to show it to us, but it does set the bar a little high for us newbie gun makers
It is difficult to find enough praise to describe the workmanship on that lock.
Thank you again.
Fred

[Turtle]

Beautiful rifle! My good friend has a Pedrosoli Mortimer and shoots it a lot. Without doubt the best performing production rifle flint-lock I have experience with. I have a flint halfstock rifle copied from the one front and center in the Remingtom Museum in Ilion NY and in the Remington history book. It was supposedly the first semi-production rifle Remington manufactured.
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