Author Topic: Engraving done - PB pictures still there so far ?? (Read 7828 times)

J. Talbert · « **on:** March 07, 2017, 03:20:57 AM »

Well I hope George isn't spinning in his grave.

To my eye it's full of errors, but it'll have to do.

I tried not to fret over the layout too much. I pretty much drew it on and went for it. There's at least one spot that I would have changed if I study it a little more, but I'm not saying where that is.

The toe plate shouldn't take too long and then... Time to start the carving!
Obviously I'm not a photographer.

Jeff

smart dog · « **Reply #1 on:** March 07, 2017, 04:45:00 AM »

Hi Jeff,
That is looking great! Well done. I love George Eister's work. Can't wait to see the carving.

dave

Ed Wenger · « **Reply #2 on:** March 07, 2017, 06:36:48 AM »

I agree with Dave.... Very nicely executed, well done!

Ed

C Wallingford · « **Reply #3 on:** March 07, 2017, 02:25:29 PM »

Looks good, Jeff. Bring it over and I will fix those errors that "you" can see!

smart dog · « **Reply #4 on:** March 07, 2017, 02:39:46 PM »

Hi Jeff,
Again, the gun and engraving look great. I do have one comment. IMO, the sideplate could use a lower border. It could be nothing more than a line and the leaves can interrupt it where they meet. I don't have pictures of Eister's work in front of me to determine if he did that as well but my design sense suggests a border on the bottom and maybe just across the long arc.

dave

Frank · « **Reply #5 on:** March 07, 2017, 04:16:28 PM »

Looks good to me. Wish I could do half as good.

Jim Kibler · « **Reply #6 on:** March 07, 2017, 04:48:25 PM »

Fantastic work Jeff! I love it. Look forward to seeing it in person when it's done.

Jim

n stephenson · « **Reply #7 on:** March 07, 2017, 05:00:29 PM »

I wish my engraving had "errors" as nice as your`s . Nice Work Jeff!!!! Nate

smallpatch · « **Reply #8 on:** March 07, 2017, 05:23:37 PM »

Wow, really nice. I will definitely NOT post any of my scratching,ever again.
Well done.

oldtravler61 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 07, 2017, 05:56:51 PM »

Jeff just to help you out. Since it has errors. Maybe you should send it to me. It would improve my gun 100 percent. Nice work an thanks for showing. Oldtravler

louieparker · « **Reply #10 on:** March 07, 2017, 06:00:21 PM »

Jeff
Thanks for posting the photos. Its great to see your progress. You're doing a wonderful job !! Great rifle....Louie

P.W.Berkuta · « **Reply #11 on:** March 07, 2017, 07:26:15 PM »

Very nicely done - I see no flaws

. A thing of beauty

.

t.caster · « **Reply #12 on:** March 07, 2017, 08:01:36 PM »

I think your engraving is very well layed out and executed.
I just wish you had beveled the edges all around your sideplate before engraving.
Looking good though!

jerrywh · « **Reply #13 on:** March 07, 2017, 08:11:57 PM »

I'm impressed with the straight lines. The cuts look real good.

T*O*F · « **Reply #14 on:** March 07, 2017, 09:02:52 PM »

Going over your engraving lines with a black magic marker will make them stand out more when photographing them. You can always wipe it off with a cloth wetted with alcohol.

Shreckmeister · « **Reply #15 on:** March 07, 2017, 09:08:19 PM »

That's very nice.

louieparker · « **Reply #16 on:** March 08, 2017, 01:31:04 AM »

Caster, a beveled side plate would not be correct on that rifle. Eisters I have seen had a flat plate. ..LP

J. Talbert · « **Reply #17 on:** March 08, 2017, 01:37:12 AM »

Thanks all for the comments.

Thanks especially to Louie Parker and Dale Campbell for the encouragement and the wonderful pictures of the original Eister rifles.

Thanks also to Jim Kibler for the excellent castings. I used the thimbles and butt plate. I didn't use your actual trigger guard on this gun because I choose to go with double set triggers, but I definitely used yours as my pattern to alter the TG that I did put on the gun.

T. Caster, I didn't bevel the edges of the side plate because it doesn't appear that Eister did. Just another one of his quirky habits that he seems to repeat. (Also, the plate is not fully depressed into the inlet in the picture.) - It looks like louie addressed this while I was typing.

Dave K. I haven't yet, but I will darken the cuts with some oxidizing solution. But I am open to suggestions for this since what I have tried thus far (Brass darkening solution) hasn't seemed to darken the cuts as much as I have seen on other guns.

This has been a fun project and challenged me the most of any so far... with the carving still to come.

It's amazing to me how Eister was able to make so many rifles that are instantly identifiable as his and yet so unique at the same time.

Thanks for looking.
Jeff

Willbarq · « **Reply #18 on:** March 08, 2017, 04:59:48 AM »

Looks nice to me! Such craftsmen on this site. Really incredible all of you are!

clockman · « **Reply #19 on:** March 08, 2017, 08:20:06 AM »

Jeff, I just looked up an Eister patch box. Wow, I think you got it. Keep posting, I can't wait to see the carving and then the finished product!
Kevin

t.caster · « **Reply #20 on:** March 08, 2017, 06:41:11 PM »

You made me hit the books to look closer at some G. Eister's rifles. I stand corrected!

Now I like everything about I see on your rifle!

Tom C

Cody Tetachuk · « **Reply #21 on:** March 09, 2017, 06:29:23 PM »

I think it is very well done. I agree with Smart dog and would add a border, either a straight line or nick&dot along the bottom of the side plate but I would also add it to the other open edges of the side plate. Would make it look "finished" IMHO. I didn't look up how GE did his engraving but, me personally like engraving to possess conceptual continuity. You have that for the most part but break that with the finial flower. All of the engraving uses the edge of the inlay as the edge of the engraving except that flower that has an engraved outline rather than using the edge as the outline. To my eye, it makes the flower look out of place because it is inconsistent with the rest of the engraving. Other than that, I think the execution is very good. I like it very much.

J. Talbert · « **Reply #22 on:** March 10, 2017, 02:02:33 AM »

Regarding the lack of a border on the side plate and what some might consider the awkwardness of the flower on the top of the patchbox finial, as mentioned by Cody and Smart Dog...

If I were trying to design these features myself I would agree with the suggestions offered, however I'm trying to play in Geo. Eister's sandbox, by his rules.
Those unorthodox features I think are what make Eister "Eister," and a big aspect of what I like about his guns. His carving and engraving have a very carefree feel, always varying to some degree or another, and asking your imagination to fill in some of the details.

The flower final differs from those of other makers because it's a variation on and relates to his more often seen little swoosh at the top of the finial.

Anyway, that's my take on it, and I do enjoy the discussion.

Thanks,
Jeff

smart dog · « **Reply #23 on:** March 10, 2017, 03:49:58 PM »

Hi Jeff,
I agree completely about the feel of Eister's work. It does have a carefree sense. His volutes have more motion than anyone else's and I think he happily and successfully violates the "golden mean" whenever he can. It is interesting to compare John Noll with Eister. Noll engraved and carved beautiful scrolls and volutes but he used external devices such as accent lines to denote movement and life. Eister does the same thing but without the devices. The eccentricity of his scrolls and volutes imparts all the motion and life necessary. I love his work as well as Noll's.

dave

louieparker · « **Reply #24 on:** March 10, 2017, 05:11:15 PM »

Jeff is making great a copy of an old master's work. I think he feels as I do and I would not be one to attempt improvement on the work of George Eister. LP

News:

Author Topic: Engraving done - PB pictures still there so far ?? (Read 7828 times)

n stephenson

Willbarq