Faber rifle

[Bill Ebner]

  I have been studying the pictures of the Johannes Faber (or Huber ) rifle in Of Sorts For Provincials and was wondering if there is any new research to indicate its origin or influences. I am particularly interested in information about the design or hardware. I have only found comments that it could have been made anywhere that a German gunsmith had settled.

Thanks,

Bill Ebner

[Eric Kettenburg]

Well, a good portion of guy sled by Wallace are pretty insistent it's a VA gun or further south.  I have no idea.  I do know there is another one, a fowler-ish thing I believe, which is extremely similar and definitely same guy.  Also I believe that the so-called "Feather gun" is believed possibly the same guy. 

I don't think Faber is the maker, I think an owner.

[Mike Brooks]

So, what's a "guy sled" and how did Wallace go about making one?

[Eric Kettenburg]

Hilaaaaaaarious.  I meant, "guys led" by Wallace as I believe he's been the primary proponent of it being VA or points South.  George stuck it in that camp early on because he didn't know where else to put it and he was not aware at the time of the others that are believed associated.   

[Eric Kettenburg]

I should add, I can see the point of placing it to the South as it sure doesn't look like anything I've seen definitively attributable to points north.

[Eric Kettenburg]

I should also add that I truly abhor automated spell correct.

[Daryl]

Hilaaaaaaarious.  I meant, "guys led" by Wallace as I believe he's been the primary proponent of it being VA or points South.  George stuck it in that camp early on because he didn't know where else to put it and he was not aware at the time of the others that are believed associated.   

Aye - another Wallace is it?

[Eric Kettenburg]

I don't know really - I do recall he had made some pretty strong comments about this rifle as well as the companion piece (which I don't think has yet been photographed).  Also the feather rifle too, although it's been a long time since I talked to him.  I believe there are some others also who have tried to make a pretty strong case for it being a southern rifle.  The Joahnnes Faber name does not amount to much, as if you try to track it, you can find people of this name all over the eastern seaboard.

[Elnathan]

According to Shumway the rifle belonged to a family located in Virginia from at least as far back as 1860. Has an English lock on it, which is unusual for an early PA piece, I believe, and doesn't look anything like any known PA piece.

[Eric Kettenburg]

It's somewhat reminiscent in curious ways of the Bullard rifle...  oops. I mean the rifle formerly known (for no logical reason) as the Bullard rifle, until it's mate turned up with a John Newcomer [Lancaster] signature.

I really have no idea where it was made, but it is definitely cool.

[Mike Brooks]

I don't know really - I do recall he had made some pretty strong comments about this rifle as well as the companion piece (which I don't think has yet been photographed).  Also the feather rifle too, although it's been a long time since I talked to him.  I believe there are some others also who have tried to make a pretty strong case for it being a southern rifle.  The Joahnnes Faber name does not amount to much, as if you try to track it, you can find people of this name all over the eastern seaboard.

The "fowling gun version" was published in Muzzle Blasts many moons ago.