Author Topic: Smoothbore Work 99% done - Heres the new girl w/all her warts & pimples showing  (Read 14679 times)

Offline Roger Fisher

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Re: Smoothbore
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2009, 10:22:39 PM »
Nice!!!!   Here's hopin' it shoots as good as it looks.

Bill

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Re: Smoothbore
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2009, 10:56:21 PM »
Very Very Nice Roger! I love it

I do have a question to throw out there since I haven't browned many parts in any of  my builds since the 90's
Don't the screw heads get browned or fire blued? or is is common to leave them "in the white" with browned furniture
Jim
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Re: Smoothbore
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2009, 11:19:33 PM »
If it were my gun I would fire blue the screws........but it's not my gun.   Again, great job Roger.

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Re: Smoothbore
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2009, 11:45:03 PM »
Well done Roger!  Wish it was mine.  It's all cool, but I especially love what you did on the barrel (muzzle).  I kind of like the way you left the screw heads in the white.  Different, and they stand out well.

What did you use to brown the metal?
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Re: Smoothbore
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2009, 01:19:22 AM »
Nice work!

Offline Roger Fisher

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Re: Smoothbore
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2009, 03:00:34 AM »
Very Very Nice Roger! I love it

I do have a question to throw out there since I haven't browned many parts in any of  my builds since the 90's
Don't the screw heads get browned or fire blued? or is is common to leave them "in the white" with browned furniture
Jim
Jeez Jim You made me look at my own photos.  Actually they are fire blued but look in the white in the fairly not so hot photos... Look at the first one again of the side plate! ::)

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Re: Smoothbore
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2009, 03:01:36 AM »
Well done Roger!  Wish it was mine.  It's all cool, but I especially love what you did on the barrel (muzzle).  I kind of like the way you left the screw heads in the white.  Different, and they stand out well.

What did you use to brown the metal?
L M cold brown took near a week.

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Re: Smoothbore
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2009, 03:03:21 AM »
Nice!!!!   Here's hopin' it shoots as good as it looks.

Bill
$#*! Bill I hope she shoots better than she looks!

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C'mon folks give me $#*!!  Pick her apart.  Could/should have taken better photos
close up...Just because I worked on her since Oct doesn't mean she shouldn't be looked over for those warts etc. Lay 'em on me.   ::)

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Roger,
I think she looks great.  Very clean and sleek lines.  She looks ready to shoot. 
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I don't really care for the muzzle treatment.  I think you should send me the circle punch so you never try that again.   ;D

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Well Roger...ya done good!  I know you'll wring out of her her full potential.  That looks like a rifle barrel to me, with a long cone so no one will suspect.  Ha!  What gauge is she?  Is it walnut..sure looks like walnut?
Here it come, since you asked.  I would have inlet the trigger guard's forward extension 'til it was flush in most of its edges, and filed the rest down to match.  I think the screw heads look fine in their blue/grey look.  I case harden mine, and don't try to disguise the mottled mix of colour.  Maybe someone will tell me mine look like $#*!, and that's ok.  Beautiful inletting, and a lovely even matt brown job.  She shouts "Huntin' gun!" to me.  Deer slayer!!
Congratulations on a super job, and thank you for posting these pictures, more of which will soon follow?
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 Excellent inletting Roger. Like Taylor says,"Hunting Gun".Very noicely done all around. Looks .54ish.

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Beautiful gun, well done!

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OK Roger, you asked for it. Like the general syling, really like the lock molding with the thin point at the rear. This isn't something that every gun should have, but a nice touch here. These are the most important things, so you've done very well INMHO.Dressing down parts could be better. Rear pipe, for example, shows an edge. You've really done well, just some technical things. At this period the barrel and the lock would be bright. Brown with time, but then the stock is to good and new. What's with the bright screw on a brown lock. I would take back the brown, HAVE COURAGE, to show some use, but represent it as bright when it left the shop. Screws should match.
The trigger is way to late. I recognize it. Bad choice.  You had this in your drawer and decided to save a buck I bet. Heat it to red heat and bend it a little more straight. It'll look a little better and more convincing.
Overall, very nice.

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C'mon folks give me $#*!!  Pick her apart.  Could/should have taken better photos
close up...Just because I worked on her since Oct doesn't mean she shouldn't be looked over for those warts etc. Lay 'em on me.   ::)
It's a very nice gun Roger.  I would consider a few things. Fill the grain in the walnut with something dark, it will change the entire appearance of the gun. As Mr. Shipman said, rub that brown way back, you'll get a real nice look. Solid brown gives me the willies, but that's just me. I'd inlet that forward trigger guard finial deeper. You may be able to do that with out re pinning it. Interesting mix of French and English parts...something you had in mind when you choose these?
 As I said before, nice job over all! ;D
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Roger......nice inletting, better than mine.   I noticed those "0's" around the muzzle, just think, everytime you load it will
remind you of your last shot, a "0".  You can't fool me, you're older than I am, and I can't hit anything anymore.....Don

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Very Nice Roger!!!!!!!!!  Maybe you will bring this to our shoot next weekend so I can fondle her a bit!  I'm with Mike on the brown.  I like to rub it back a bit.  As far as Don's comment I've seen you shoot.  0's are not for you perhaps you should have put 10's and one 9 on there ;D.  Talk to you soon. Rich  Oh by the way, I got the boy shooting glasses so you don't yell at me again!!!!!!! ::)
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Well Roger...ya done good!  I know you'll wring out of her her full potential.  That looks like a rifle barrel to me, with a long cone so no one will suspect.  Ha!  What gauge is she?  Is it walnut..sure looks like walnut?
Here it come, since you asked.  I would have inlet the trigger guard's forward extension 'til it was flush in most of its edges, and filed the rest down to match.  I think the screw heads look fine in their blue/grey look.  I case harden mine, and don't try to disguise the mottled mix of colour.  Maybe someone will tell me mine look like $#*!, and that's ok.  Beautiful inletting, and a lovely even matt brown job.  She shouts "Huntin' gun!" to me.  Deer slayer!!
Congratulations on a super job, and thank you for posting these pictures, more of which will soon follow?
Yes, she is walnut and found a good piece with the grain thru the wrist and that flame in the butt .  That trigger guard (frenchie) is inletted quite deep but yes should have gone deeper - may still do it!  More photos should really be taken and posted.  $#*!, I need to hear about the mistakes sometimes we are too close to the bush to see the trees !! ;)
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OK Roger, you asked for it. Like the general syling, really like the lock molding with the thin point at the rear. This isn't something that every gun should have, but a nice touch here. These are the most important things, so you've done very well INMHO.Dressing down parts could be better. Rear pipe, for example, shows an edge. You've really done well, just some technical things. At this period the barrel and the lock would be bright. Brown with time, but then the stock is to good and new. What's with the bright screw on a brown lock. I would take back the brown, HAVE COURAGE, to show some use, but represent it as bright when it left the shop. Screws should match.
The trigger is way to late. I recognize it. Bad choice.  You had this in your drawer and decided to save a buck I bet. Heat it to red heat and bend it a little more straight. It'll look a little better and more convincing.
Overall, very nice.

The long thin point rear of lock moulding is taken from a photo I have of an original durs egg and I figured rightly or wrongly that it would fit in with the frenchie side plate and trikker guard.  I darn near left her in the white felt the contrast would have been nice; but went on with the cold brown anyway :o
She still needs some tweaking (don't all females ???) And that screw will be browned.  Never thought abt that late trigger.  She will be straightened and thanks for pointing that out.   What would be the better way to 'take back the brown'? fine wool, 3 m, fine paper.  And would you do the lock AND the barrel?  I appreciate your response and so do the rest of us on this board!  We are all learning.

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C'mon folks give me $#*!!  Pick her apart.  Could/should have taken better photos
close up...Just because I worked on her since Oct doesn't mean she shouldn't be looked over for those warts etc. Lay 'em on me.   ::)
It's a very nice gun Roger.  I would consider a few things. Fill the grain in the walnut with something dark, it will change the entire appearance of the gun. As Mr. Shipman said, rub that brown way back, you'll get a real nice look. Solid brown gives me the willies, but that's just me. I'd inlet that forward trigger guard finial deeper. You may be able to do that with out re pinning it. Interesting mix of French and English parts...something you had in mind when you choose these?
 As I said before, nice job over all! ;D
Mike she already has 10 or so apps of ol tyme b linseed oil - too late for the dark filler!???   Would you take back the brown on bothe the barrel and the lock?  I could
claim that it was a plan from the get go; but I'd be lying.  All started with a t guard on an original that I saw and Tip Curtis had one so I went on from there. 

Thanks for your expert advice!

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Roger......nice inletting, better than mine.   I noticed those "0's" around the muzzle, just think, everytime you load it will
remind you of your last shot, a "0".  You can't fool me, you're older than I am, and I can't hit anything anymore.....Don
Yes, I must find an 'X' punch somewhere!  Thankee!

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Very Nice Roger!!!!!!!!!  Maybe you will bring this to our shoot next weekend so I can fondle her a bit!  I'm with Mike on the brown.  I like to rub it back a bit.  As far as Don's comment I've seen you shoot.  0's are not for you perhaps you should have put 10's and one 9 on there ;D.  Talk to you soon. Rich  Oh by the way, I got the boy shooting glasses so you don't yell at me again!!!!!!! ::)
Hmmm 'Your shoot next weekend??  Where is that?  We are shooting at Langhorne coming Sunday.

Jeez and here I took special pains not to 'yell'!!! ;D

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Garage Rats next weekend right?

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Spray it with flat black rustoleum and steel wool it back off, that will fill your pores.
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