Author Topic: ALR Museum Gunsmith: William Reid of Spartansburg, SC ( Attributed)  (Read 4371 times)

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This gun, though attributed to Reid, is testimony to the fine gunsmiths and artistic merits of guns made in the South other than the classic "iron mounted" guns usually thought of when considering guns of Southern origins.

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Re: ALR Museum Gunsmith: William Reid of Spartansburg, SC
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2009, 05:08:37 PM »
I believe the cheekpiece inlay picture portrays a man expiring his last breath to signify the ultimate purpose of a gun.  This would be especially true if the gun's intended purpose was for war or protection.
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Re: ALR Museum Gunsmith: William Reid of Spartansburg, SC ( Attributed)
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2009, 07:11:01 AM »
William Reid was born in Virginia in or about 1767, and moved to South Carolina with his parents and siblings sometime prior to the 1790 census.  His father bought land in Spartanburg County in 1792.  If William followed the practice of the time and served an apprenticeship at a young age, he would have begun his apprenticeship about 1783 while still living in Virginia.  By the time he moved to South Carolina, Reid was about age 25 and would have been old enough to be working with another gunsmith or to open his own shop. 

In any event, by the time William purchased his own land in Spartanburg County in 1794,  at age 27, he was making guns in his own shop. He worked as a gunsmith in Spartanburg and lived a very productive and long life, serving as a magistrate, justice of the peace, member of the South Carolina House of Representatives, Commissioner of Schools, etc.  He continued as an active gunsmith until a ripe old age.  In the 1850 census of Spartanburg County, he is listed at age 82 as a gunsmith!  In the 1860 census, at age 92, he is listed as a farmer.  The date of his death appears to between November 1860 and June 1862.

The late Dr. Harley MacIntosh, the dean of South Carolina collectors, referred to William Reid as “probably the foremost gunsmith South Carolina ever produced during the “Golden Age” of the Kentucky rifle – 1790-1830.”  We can only speculate that he must have influenced other gunsmiths, not only in South Carolina but in the surrounding states during his perhaps 60 year career as a gunsmith. 

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Re: ALR Museum Gunsmith: William Reid of Spartansburg, SC ( Attributed)
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2009, 02:41:21 PM »
The sideplate on that gun, to me looks to have a similar feel to one of those Augusta/Rockbridge guns that Wallace has featured in several articles.  The patchbox finial and comb architecture have a similar feel some North Carolina pieces.

What a cool gun.  I really love that lock too.

Some of the books have "maybes" but this is the first South Carolina gun (that actually looks pretty certain to be attributed to South Carolina) I've had the opportunity to see.
 
Thanks for posting it.  In just a few months you have assembled one of the best references for photos of a wide range of southern guns - including some of the finest known examples that were only previously poorly shown in published books, and stunning examples that have not been published before like this gun, the Richard Allen gun and others.   

Guy
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Re: ALR Museum Gunsmith: William Reid of Spartansburg, SC ( Attributed)
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2009, 05:19:29 PM »
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William Reid was born in Virginia in or about 1767, and moved to South Carolina with his parents and siblings sometime prior to the 1790 census.  His father bought land in Spartanburg County in 1792.
Wayne,
Is there a chance you know what area of VA Reid came from? That is about the same time that the Gillespie's, Sitton's and Bowen's, along with several other families from the Cow Pasture River valley, moved to the old Pendleton District near today's Pickens SC. The Cherokee Indian lands were evidently attracting many from western Virginia.
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Re: ALR Museum Gunsmith: William Reid of Spartansburg, SC ( Attributed)
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2009, 10:42:23 PM »
Dennis, unfortunately I don't know. The Virginia birth info comes from the later censuses which give the state or nation of birth.  It would be great to tie down the area better.  For one thing, it would help us to understand the influence Virginia may have had on Reid's long career in South Carolina.
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Re: ALR Museum Gunsmith: William Reid of Spartansburg, SC ( Attributed)
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2009, 06:52:30 PM »
Isn't that extension of the front pillar down the bow of the guard a Virginia feature? I seem to remember seeing that on a coupla Va guns.

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