Author Topic: Disaster Strikes (Read 11523 times)

Ken G · « **on:** April 17, 2009, 03:43:27 AM »

Here's a good example of why kids and guns don't mix. I guess I just need a shoulder to cry on. I had the barrel laying on the work bench. My daughter came over to hug my neck before heading out tonight and you guessed it. Disaster! The barrel gets knocked off the bench top and Uuugh!

It can be fixed but Uuugh!

tallbear · « **Reply #1 on:** April 17, 2009, 03:55:58 AM »

Ken
If you lived a little closer I have a single malt scotch here for you.It will look better in the morning!!!!!!

Mitch

Dave B · « **Reply #2 on:** April 17, 2009, 04:06:04 AM »

It is always a drag when this stuff happens but It could have been worse. I would trade a hug from my daughter for having to straighten out a tang any day of the week.

I was doing wire inlay work on a Isaac Haines rifle on the kitchen table and my small chisels were on the table beside the stock. My 2yr old son was coloring at the other
end of the table. I went to the john and came back to find him in my chair standing over the stock with one of the small chisels in his hand just going to town on the cheek piece side. He had a big slobering grin on his face having a good ole time. I didnt have the heart to yell at him for it. It was a rifle for my little brother and he laughed to hear the story and told me not remove the chip marks so he sould recount how the nephew helped carve the rifle.

Scott Bumpus · « **Reply #3 on:** April 17, 2009, 04:11:03 AM »

You are a lucky man Ken! A doughter that will hug her dad is worth fixing a tang several times!

Birddog6 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 17, 2009, 04:27:09 AM »

Oh I feel for you.............

When I take mine out I put it clear across the room as I just know I am going to bend or break it.

Fixing it should not be too big a deal, but getting the repaired one back in the same inlet may be a big deal.

Dang,........ that just makes me sick to see it..........

Roger Fisher · « **Reply #5 on:** April 17, 2009, 04:52:15 AM »

I feel your pain

Brian · « **Reply #6 on:** April 17, 2009, 05:03:20 AM »

Ugh! But hey, @#$%/!! happens! Don't know about you, but when I hit a bump like that I find the best thing to do is just sit on it for a while and think. Don't take the first "repairative" steps you think of. Weigh ALL the options. Take a day or so and think it through from several angles.

The right "fix" will come to you. Every single time I just pick up something I messed up and "fix" it right away I always think of a better way to have done it - after I did it.

So put it away for a few days and ponder.

Of course I rarely am bright enough to follow my own advice, but in the end I always know that's what I SHOULD have done!

I'm going to go have a very large Bushmills for you now!

(and if you think YOU feel bad - imagine how your Daughter feels

Bill of the 45th · « **Reply #7 on:** April 17, 2009, 05:20:03 AM »

Ken, that hug is the most important thing right now. Too soon the Daughters, are gone. I know, I've got three, and I savor every hug I've gotten. As someone has already said, she probably feels worse. relax and chill out, most of the ALR is having a good stiff one for ya. Hey, go put a little work on mine, and get back to it in a couple of days. Don't be too hard on her , as she's going to be the Mom of yer grand kids, which we all know , we would of had them first if we knew how much fun they were. Hang in there Ken.

Bill

Ken G · « **Reply #8 on:** April 17, 2009, 05:25:07 AM »

You guys make me feel some better especailly Dave B. That would be a tough thing to have happen. I can tweek and bend till I get the tang back. Chisel marks would be real hard to deal with. It's hard to be real mad because she was hugging my neck but then she left and that went all away. She had no idea what she had done or how severe the bend was. Her first response was I can bend it back. I came across the bench to stop her from bending it back down. haha
Taking a break and walking away is without question the best approach. Tomorrow is a better day.

Ken

Ken G · « **Reply #9 on:** April 17, 2009, 05:27:04 AM »

Bill,
Funny you posted what you did as I was posting. Your parts are scattered across the bench. Working on your triggers now.
Cheers,
Ken

Blacksmoke · « **Reply #10 on:** April 17, 2009, 08:11:34 AM »

Ken--- are you ever lucky to have a daughter that wants to come and hug you!! To the repair- -don't forget to add a little heat to straighten the tang. Bending steel is a little easier that way---but then I guess you knew that already!

Hugh Toenjes

PINYONE · « **Reply #11 on:** April 17, 2009, 05:41:21 PM »

I had recently posted on the topic of the over the comb tangs that they look to me to be sort of a pain in the rear not to mention in the way, my view was make it 2 piece so that you could leave the long piece in the stock and and the short breech plug could easily removed, this from Ken is a good example. Just one hug and Bam! 2 piece boys.

Dphariss · « **Reply #12 on:** April 17, 2009, 06:10:23 PM »

"Do-do occurs" is the proper term for this.
I once dropped a fully engraved lock on a concrete floor when visiting a friends shop. Top of the line engraving I might add.

AARRGGHH!!

When he was 18 months old my son toddled into the hall and pulled a Sharps I had stocked up for myself out of the spot I had leaned it to get cleaning supplies.
The rifle fell flat on the vinyl floor and broke clean at the rear lock screw only the trigger plate held it together.
I thought he had been put to bed....
It was fixable and was nearly undetectable in 3 days. But its a $#*! of fate for a nice piece of European walnut. It does not do much for ones metal state either.
It did, however, explain the old Sharps I had seen with nearly identical breaks. There was not a mark on the gun anywhere, just a nice clean break straight across the wrist.
As I am sure you know "you are not alone".
Dan

Berks Liberty · « **Reply #13 on:** April 17, 2009, 06:35:46 PM »

I feel for you Ken but I also know that it is hard to get made at the kids when they make a mistake. Recently my son was trying to help me hang my rifle on the wall and before I knew it he picked up the rifle and dropped it on the lock side bending the hammer enough that it wouldn't strike the frizzen the right way. All I could do is shake my head, especially after he said "OOPs, I'm Sorry Daddy!" But those are the special moments to remember.

Jason

Steve Bookout · « **Reply #14 on:** April 17, 2009, 07:08:53 PM »

'Dawg, we really, really feel for your misfortune. At least your wrist didn't snap like Nelly's with the stock shattering in three places.....AND your daughter's love is worth more than a stick and some scrap iron. Cheers, Bookie

Vivian Oblivion · « **Reply #15 on:** April 17, 2009, 07:50:59 PM »

Quote from: PINYONE on April 17, 2009, 05:41:21 PM

I had recently posted on the topic of the over the comb tangs that they look to me to be sort of a pain in the rear not to mention in the way, my view was make it 2 piece so that you could leave the long piece in the stock and and the short breech plug could easily removed, this from Ken is a good example. Just one hug and Bam! 2 piece boys.

It's been known to happen that a stock (finished or nearly so) gets dropped or knocked over without a barrel in it and the fragile forestock breaks off, this is not a reason to make a two piece forestock with a brass spacer ala CVA. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right as Ken did. He'll have it fixed and perfect in no time and it will make a good story for the camp fire.

Viv

G-Man · « **Reply #16 on:** April 17, 2009, 08:18:10 PM »

Ken - just think of it this way -

your daughter helped you conduct a very valuable and graphic experiment for us mountain rifle fans that demonstrates whether those long over-the-comb tangs really added any strength to the wrist or were just for looks...

Looks like we have an answer

Sometimes learning is painful, but knowledge gained nonetheless.

By the way - nice looking gun in the works there.

Guy

Acer Saccharum · « **Reply #17 on:** April 17, 2009, 08:41:59 PM »

Ken, I feel your pain.

Acer

Stophel · « **Reply #18 on:** April 17, 2009, 09:06:54 PM »

Disaster gets his mail at my house.

DanL · « **Reply #19 on:** April 17, 2009, 09:47:43 PM »

Love Hurts !!!

However, if there is one to be chosen for this type of repair...KEN YOU ARE THE MAN !!!

DanL

PIKELAKE · « **Reply #20 on:** April 17, 2009, 11:34:32 PM »

Sorry about your dilema. At least you got a hug. Girls hug. boys don't. Can't remember getting a hug from my sons. The oldest did give me two grand kids, a boy and a girl. I have them convinced that hugs are good.

Ken G · « **Reply #21 on:** April 17, 2009, 11:44:06 PM »

Guys,
I appreciate the sharing of the pain and having a shoulder to cry on. It's nice to have a place to share experiences and sometimes hear it's not as bad as it seems.
Ken

Tim Crosby · « **Reply #22 on:** April 18, 2009, 12:36:35 AM »

Wow! Could have been worse...it could have been self inflected, ask me how I know

Tim C.

JTR · « **Reply #23 on:** April 18, 2009, 01:48:48 AM »

Self inflicted, oouch, I did that once long ago with the first really nice rifle I’d just bought.
Simon Miller was the maker and when it arrived, I hung it on the wall right over the TV with pride and excitement. It was a nice gun, carved on the cheek side with Millers usual carving, but had previously been broken through the wrist and repaired, but what the heck I didn’t care, it was beautiful and I was tickled to have it!
So one night with the wife and kid watching TV, I went out to the garage for something, the door being on the same wall as the TV,,, and gun,,, and as the door closed I heard a bang,,, clank,,,,, and an ungodly ‘Ooooooh Noooo’ from my wife and daughter. I shot through the garage door back into the house and saw the gals wide staring eyes looking toward the TV, and when I looked, there was the barrel and forearm of my just bought gorgeous rifle laying on top of the TV,,,, with the entire butt stock hanging down over the side, broken, held on by only the bent to heck trigger guard.
The rifle eventually got repaired again, and Ken, your tang will get repaired as well! And at least you got a hug. My daughter live a thousand miles away now so hugs are far between.
John

Dave K · « **Reply #24 on:** April 18, 2009, 02:48:32 AM »

I will never forget finally buying a prized, high end, SxS shotgun that I had always wanted. It is a gun made in the late 1800's, early 1900's of fine wood and beautiful engraving. I had it at my house about 10 min. and was clearing spot on the work bench in the gun room so I could really examine her. All of a sudden, right before my very eyes, it slid off the bench and onto the floor side ways on the side of the butt stock. It was like a slow motion nightmare. There was this sickening thud, when the wrist broke in two and was left hanging on by the trigger guard. I didn't say a word. My Dad had stopped to see my new toy, but at the instant of the tragedy, he was visiting my wife in another room, when he heard the thud. I heard him say, "it must not be to bad, I don't hear any cussing!". Of course he didn't, I was too sick to. But many hrs. and dollars later, it is now as good as new. I paid a good price for that education.

I got hugs for keeping my language to myself, along with the pain and suffering.

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Author Topic: Disaster Strikes (Read 11523 times)

Birddog6

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