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B and C weights
« on: May 03, 2017, 01:07:56 PM »
Slap my face and call me Elmer Fudd, but What's the diffwence between B and C weights in bawels?

Simple, maybe for you veterans at this, but I can't find an explanation anywhere.  As I get better at this I oughta know that and why one selects the different weight barrel.

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Re: B and C weights
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2017, 01:33:40 PM »
The barrel dimensions are different. Best way to know is to look at drawings that are on many barrel maker sites. Hare is a link to Rice's
 site : http://www.ricebarrels.com/chart.html look at the drawings toward the bottom of the page.
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Re: B and C weights
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2017, 01:40:19 PM »
Hi,
Did you check Rice Barrel Cos website and click on barrel specifications?  Did you check out Track of the Wolf's website and look at the dimensions they show for A, B, and C weights for Colerain and Rice barrels?  Did you look at Charlie Burton's website and review his barrels specs?  "C" weight have larger outside dimensions than B weights, which have larger outside dimensions than A weights.  For a given caliber, I go C weight if I want a heavier barrel and wider breech and wrist and B weight if I want a lighter barrel and narrower breech and wrist.

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Re: B and C weights
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2017, 02:17:44 PM »
Hi,
Did you check Rice Barrel Cos website and click on barrel specifications?  Did you check out Track of the Wolf's website and look at the dimensions they show for A, B, and C weights for Colerain and Rice barrels?  Did you look at Charlie Burton's website and review his barrels specs?  "C" weight have larger outside dimensions than B weights, which have larger outside dimensions than A weights.  For a given caliber, I go C weight if I want a heavier barrel and wider breech and wrist and B weight if I want a lighter barrel and narrower breech and wrist.

dave

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Re: B and C weights
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2017, 05:49:40 PM »
Hi Bob,
Unfortunately, a ruler and calipers don't help much unless you have the barrels in hand.  Rice has 10+ different barrel profiles in A, B, and C weights, Colerain and others have a bunch more.  If you want to know differences in dimensions, it is a lot easier to look at the size charts for each profile provided on those web sites.

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Re: B and C weights
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2017, 06:54:34 PM »
"C" weight have larger outside dimensions than B weights, which have larger outside dimensions than A weights.  For a given caliber, I go C weight if I want a heavier barrel and wider breech and wrist and B weight if I want a lighter barrel and narrower breech and wrist.

Dog ( Dave)  You're smart.

That's about what I thought.  So, if I want a light barrel because I am a Pansie in my old age I look for "A" weights.

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Re: B and C weights
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2017, 07:28:47 PM »
Hi Bob,
Unfortunately, a ruler and calipers don't help much unless you have the barrels in hand.  Rice has 10+ different barrel profiles in A, B, and C weights, Colerain and others have a bunch more.  If you want to know differences in dimensions, it is a lot easier to look at the size charts for each profile provided on those web sites.

dave

I have a GM 50 caliber barrel that is 1"x33".That is all the dimensions needed.
When I helped Bill Large we used fractional dimensions with no need for the alphabet.

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Re: B and C weights
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2017, 07:46:41 PM »
But  did he make swamped barrels and if so how did he designate them?
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Re: B and C weights
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2017, 10:17:09 PM »
I think it goes like this across the board:

A barrels are 0.937" at breech
B barrels are 1.00" at the breech
C barrels are 1.062" at the breech
D barrels are 1.125" at the breech
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Re: B and C weights
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2017, 12:06:32 AM »
But  did he make swamped barrels and if so how did he designate them?
Dennis

Dennis,
As far as I know he just called them a swamped barrel.When Bill was active there
were few if any pre inlet stocks and probably none for a swamped barrel,
There were a lot of makers then that hand inlet them but I think most are now
retired or dead.
All the orders that came to Bill were designated by decimal or fractional sizes
and this ABCD thing is something that came along much later. I prefer the old
way and see no reason to change even if I were making guns.

Bob Roller