Thanks,guys,I do have to remove a bit more to help round over the bottom of the lower forestock,thanks Taylor.Thought the same thing after seeing his butt plate.Wouldn't be the first do over on this rifle,had a oval nose piece plugged in and one of our fellow members had a proper round one.The original toe plate I had inlett Imho was a tad thin for my liking.Might see how many he is making, check the dimensions to see if it would fit,something to ponder.Dave I will try to get some better pics,had rough time trying to get them to download and my photograghy stinks.Its been a rewarding experience so far,educational as well.While it won't compare to work I have seen from you folks I hope to get close to capturing the nuances of a full stock Hawken.Without the help,education and guidance from the folks on this site it would have been impossible to have gotten to this point.Thanks