Author Topic: Worlds best Builder..."words cannot describe"  (Read 17113 times)

Offline Molly

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1506
Worlds best Builder..."words cannot describe"
« on: September 03, 2017, 11:37:01 PM »
I see there is another "words cannot describe" rifle up for auction by the world greatest builder.

Wonder what she'll fetch?


http://www.gunbroker.com/item/685480533

BTW, this is not a pun on the rifle but rather the seller!
« Last Edit: September 03, 2017, 11:38:13 PM by Molly »

Offline Joe S.

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1990
  • the other Joe S.
Re: Worlds best Builder..."words cannot describe"
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2017, 11:49:53 PM »
A pretty bold statement by that fellow,it is a nice rifle,quess we will see just how nice.

Offline Majorjoel

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3138
Re: Worlds best Builder..."words cannot describe"
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2017, 12:10:43 AM »
Funny there is no mention of caliber or any details as to barrel length, LOP, etc.  ???

Joel Hall

Offline Robby

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2655
  • NYSSR ―
Re: Worlds best Builder..."words cannot describe"
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2017, 12:30:40 AM »
Builder, really? seems like there ought to be a better, or more applicable word for people that make these guns. Builder? Trump is probably the worlds best builder, at least in the last fifty years.
Robby
molon labe
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. A. Lincoln

Vulcan

  • Guest
Re: Worlds best Builder..."words cannot describe"
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2017, 12:46:38 AM »
If I'm not mistaken, this very same gun had been listed on Guns International a few months ago for around 30K, so I'd assume the bidders have a ways to go before they hit the reserve price.

Offline Mike Brooks

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13415
    • Mike Brooks Gunmaker
Re: Worlds best Builder..."words cannot describe"
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2017, 01:00:43 AM »
I'd have to agree, Jud is one of the world's best.

Actually when I read the title of your post I figured you were referring to me..... ::)
NEW WEBSITE! www.mikebrooksflintlocks.com
Say, any of you boys smithies? Or, if not smithies per se, were you otherwise trained in the metallurgic arts before straitened circumstances forced you into a life of aimless wanderin'?

Spinner

  • Guest
Re: Worlds best Builder..."words cannot describe"
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2017, 02:09:21 AM »
That gun reminds me of the great American axiom, "Some is good, more is better, too much is just right."  Mr. Brennan is certainly a great craftsman and his work is really awesome but, like French Provincial furniture, it's a bit overdone for me.

Offline Jim Chambers

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1828
Re: Worlds best Builder..."words cannot describe"
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2017, 02:43:18 AM »
If you like that Judd rifle I have nine more here in the shop for sale, and far below the thirty grand price.  Call me.

Online EC121

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1610
Re: Worlds best Builder..."words cannot describe"
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2017, 03:04:06 AM »
The rifle has been on Guns International for the last 2 or 3 yrs. at $35K.  I guess he decided to try to change his luck.  When it first appeared on Gun Broker, I sent an email to the seller asking about the caliber and LOP.  No answer as of today.
Brice Stultz

Offline Molly

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1506
Re: Worlds best Builder..."words cannot describe"
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2017, 03:38:40 AM »
Nice work for sure but I have seen other listings beginning with "words cannot describe".  Baloney!  There are all sorts of superlatives that CAN describe.  A very nice work by a highly acclaimed artist nonetheless!  I have seven or eight down stairs by the least known builder of no great fame (no, that's not you either Mike) and they all look very nice and all shoot better than I and most well below the current bid with a few slightly over.

BTW, I did see a few of "Brooks works" at the CLA show I think.  Nice work, fair price.  Now, THAT is a deal!


Offline oldtravler61

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4413
  • We all make mistakes.
Re: Worlds best Builder..."words cannot describe"
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2017, 03:57:37 AM »
  My simple opion is do you want to pay the extra $30,000 for the name on the barrel or as Molly said. You can buy a high quality gun from a virtual unknown. That is every bit as well built.
  But then no one is telling you how to spend your money.
  After attending the CLA show for the last few year's. Their are some fantastic guns for sale for under $2500.   Oldtravler
 

Offline mountainman70

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2465
  • USAF vet 1971-1972 malmstrom afb,montana
Re: Worlds best Builder..."words cannot describe"
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2017, 04:01:47 AM »
Makes me wonder zactly why it is on gunbroker,being sold by this guy? Fine rifle for sure,a bit busy for my taste,but then,right now I am drinking some apple shine!!! 8) 8) have a goodun,y'all   Dave

Offline Mike Brooks

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13415
    • Mike Brooks Gunmaker
Re: Worlds best Builder..."words cannot describe"
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2017, 04:37:52 AM »
I really hate over done Colonial American work, but I have always liked the way Jud handles his carving and engraving design and execution.. Always tasteful even if the gun is fully covered. I see this one appears to have a sterling silver patch box, something you don't see every day.
NEW WEBSITE! www.mikebrooksflintlocks.com
Say, any of you boys smithies? Or, if not smithies per se, were you otherwise trained in the metallurgic arts before straitened circumstances forced you into a life of aimless wanderin'?

Offline Eric Kettenburg

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4178
    • Eric Kettenburg
Re: Worlds best Builder..."words cannot describe"
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2017, 05:35:11 AM »
You know, if you set aside the discussions of value or the seller's description - neither of which are Jud's responsibility - and this rifle were posted here either by the builder or the new owner, I don't think it would be viewed as some may be viewing it.

It is a piece of pretty incredible workmanship.
Strange women lying in ponds, distributing swords, is no basis for a system of government!

Offline D. Taylor Sapergia

  • Member 3
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 12671
Re: Worlds best Builder..."words cannot describe"
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2017, 07:35:41 AM »
...and there are words to describe it!
D. Taylor Sapergia
www.sapergia.blogspot.com

Art is not an object.  It is the excitement inspired by the object.

Offline smart dog

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 7013
Re: Worlds best Builder..."words cannot describe"
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2017, 02:31:17 PM »
Hi Folks,
Jud's rifle is beautiful and deserves admiration but the seller engaged in hyperbole to encourage the sale.  I urge folks to focus on the gun rather than the words of the seller.  I would hate to see the thread sink into a snarky abyss.

dave
"The main accomplishment of modern economics is to make astrology look good."

Offline Molly

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1506
Re: Worlds best Builder..."words cannot describe"
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2017, 02:43:46 PM »
Yep, great work that was never in question but the comment was about the description not the rifle.  I and most others could easily write an appropriate description.

Offline mark esterly

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 408
Re: Worlds best Builder..."words cannot describe"
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2017, 03:02:46 PM »
read the bottom text and it refers you here  http://contemporarymakers.blogspot.com/2012/12/jud-brennan-rifle.html
living in the hope of HIS coming.......

Offline Mike Brooks

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13415
    • Mike Brooks Gunmaker
Re: Worlds best Builder..."words cannot describe"
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2017, 03:19:34 PM »
read the bottom text and it refers you here  http://contemporarymakers.blogspot.com/2012/12/jud-brennan-rifle.html
That really is an  incredible piece of work.
NEW WEBSITE! www.mikebrooksflintlocks.com
Say, any of you boys smithies? Or, if not smithies per se, were you otherwise trained in the metallurgic arts before straitened circumstances forced you into a life of aimless wanderin'?

Offline Molly

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1506
Re: Worlds best Builder..."words cannot describe"
« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2017, 10:53:32 PM »
Indeed it is and the auction ended at $3,125 I think.  If all that was shown was included and even if it was not it's hard to imagine such a low figure.  I saw some of the family "jewels" at the CLA show.  The artistry of these and that of others is just more than most mortals can grasp.  And some of these works are by people who are self taught.  Man, what can you say!

Offline Dennis Glazener

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 19484
    • GillespieRifles
Re: Worlds best Builder..."words cannot describe"
« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2017, 11:13:35 PM »
And that bid was mine, I had no idea it would reach the reserve (but would have been excited if it had :) )
Dennis
"I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend" - Thomas Jefferson

Offline oldtravler61

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4413
  • We all make mistakes.
Re: Worlds best Builder..."words cannot describe"
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2017, 01:30:05 AM »
  Well I'm a little confused. After reading some of the posts. Was under the impression it was for sale at over 30 grand.
  Ok maybe I miss read it. Otherwise I would have bid on it. Even had the bosses blessing.
  Soooo enlighten me. What was the final winning bid?
  Tried looking on the sight but no such luck.  Great rifle though.  Oldtravler

Online EC121

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1610
Re: Worlds best Builder..."words cannot describe"
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2017, 02:53:11 AM »
Old Traveler:  The reserve wasn't met, and it has rolled over into another auction starting at $4000.  The $35K price was an earlier ad on another fixed price site not the new auction on Gun Broker.  He does say you can make an offer.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2017, 02:55:58 AM by EC121 »
Brice Stultz

Offline oldtravler61

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4413
  • We all make mistakes.
Re: Worlds best Builder..."words cannot describe"
« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2017, 03:43:03 AM »
  Ec121 thank you for the info. Much appreciated. Oldtravler

Offline David Rase

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4320
  • If we need it here, make it here. Charlie Daniels
Re: Worlds best Builder..."words cannot describe"
« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2017, 08:25:56 PM »
Actually when I read the title of your post I figured you were referring to me..... ::)
I too was disappointed to find out it was not you!   ???
David