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Dennis Glazener
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Western NC/E. TN barrel marked A*G
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A friend of mine recently picked up this barrel. It looks like a western NC/E TN to me. It's 44 inches and about 38 caliber. The tang extension extends on out/over the nose of the stock. The A*G looks familiar to me but I am at our daughter's without access to my books. Anyone recognize the signature?
Almost forgot the barrel has its three original draw loops, front and rear sights and the front sight is silver.
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Re: Western NC/E. TN barrel marked A*E
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October 14, 2017, 03:33:43 AM »
Looks like it's A*G, not A*E.
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Dennis Glazener
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Re: Western NC/E. TN barrel marked A*G
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October 14, 2017, 04:19:29 AM »
It is A*G terrible typing from memory when you have little memory left!
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Re: Western NC/E. TN barrel marked A*G
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October 14, 2017, 05:44:44 AM »
That barrel is by Alfred Farrington Gross of Sullivan County Tenn.........Louie
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Hlbly
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Re: Western NC/E. TN barrel marked A*G
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October 14, 2017, 01:46:01 PM »
Piney Flats, TN. On the old highway between Bristol and Johnson City.
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Mike Brooks
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October 14, 2017, 04:11:19 PM »
Nifty, I'd like to build a gun around that old barrel....in one of my lifetimes.
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October 14, 2017, 05:52:06 PM »
... Nice, Nice, Nice .... !!!! .... did he get any hardware along with the barrel ...... would he consider selling..?? ...(keep answer "under the table" ) .... HaHaHa ....
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October 14, 2017, 07:26:17 PM »
Alfred's Gravestone, Piney Tenn. He lived in some interesting times. That barrel is just cool.
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October 16, 2017, 03:44:15 AM »
Very interesting barrel and nice inscription on grave stone...."not dead but sleepeth".
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Re: Western NC/E. TN barrel marked A*G
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October 16, 2017, 05:54:14 AM »
I have a couple of his rifles somewhere around here! Same marking.
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Cades Cove Fiddler
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October 16, 2017, 08:24:57 PM »
... Post some pix of them please S.R ...!! .... btw ... you should have a table at Jim Parker's show and let us enjoy some of your collection ...
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Dennis Glazener
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October 17, 2017, 02:02:00 AM »
Here are photos of one of ol Alfred's rifles on Art and Jan Risers site:
http://contemporarymakers.blogspot.com/2013/03/alfred-gross-rifle.html
Take a look at Louie's pistol patterned after some of Alfred's work. Its pretty neat too:
http://contemporarymakers.blogspot.com/2010/10/louie-parker-after-alfred-farrington.html
Looks like ol Alfred was a pretty good gunmaker.
Dennis
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Mike Brooks
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Re: Western NC/E. TN barrel marked A*G
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October 17, 2017, 01:22:59 PM »
Now I know what to do with all those sheets of German silver I inherited.....
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October 17, 2017, 09:23:08 PM »
My Samuel Kellar rifle has some of the same Masonic emblems as the Alfred Gross rifle that Louie has pictured. It has the man under the crescent, the pointing hand and a few others.
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Cades Cove Fiddler
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October 18, 2017, 12:30:53 AM »
.... Always good to see Tennessee made guns on here ... was curious about Louie's pistol ... was the original always percussion...
... How about your barrel, Dennis ... was she originally flint ...?? ... Thanx & regards ... C C Fiddler .....
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October 18, 2017, 01:01:17 AM »
Fiddler
There was no original . The pistol is my attempt of creating what AFG might have made. As far as I know there are no signed pistols by him......LP
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October 18, 2017, 01:06:33 AM »
Fiddler
You ask if the original pistol was flint. Robin Hale said Gross never made a flint. But we know now that he did.
I know of two and wondering if there are more...LP
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Re: Western NC/E. TN barrel marked A*G
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October 18, 2017, 02:17:57 AM »
I have a rifle that I bought off this site this past summer that has an identical tang. No markings on the barrel that I can find but it's about 46" long and about .38-.40 caliber. Hearing it may be a carolina rifle based upon the shape of the stock but definitely restock or parts that were restocked. The trigger gaurd has two hole on the front extension tab and the last stake on the barrel is missing with no hole drilled in the stock for it, either. Appears to be a hardware store lock.
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