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Re: Lancaster Rehab - Attempted Reclamation and Rescue of an Old Project Gone Wrong
« Reply #50 on: November 18, 2017, 05:36:22 AM »
Jim, it's good to hear from you and I appreciate your insights and suggestions!  I spent some time blending, tapering the and cleaning up the background today, I think it has improved things considerably.  Probably have a little more to go in a few spots.

I'm thinkin' its too late for me to do much of anything about that middle leaf.  That being said I see what you are talking about and will keep that thought of "flow of design" in mind for future projects.  Thanks for weighing in!

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Re: Lancaster Rehab - Attempted Reclamation and Rescue of an Old Project Gone Wrong
« Reply #51 on: November 18, 2017, 05:40:17 AM »
Singlemalt, you may be right about that, I'll kick the thought around and see if I get moved enough to execute that.

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Re: Lancaster Rehab - Attempted Reclamation and Rescue of an Old Project Gone Wrong
« Reply #52 on: November 18, 2017, 06:15:18 AM »
Quote from: Curtis on November 18, 2017, 05:40:17 AM
Singlemalt, you may be right about that, I'll kick the thought around and see if I get moved enough to execute that.

Curtis

Curtis,
It looks like you have enough meat on that rear entry pipe finial (extension? What's the right word?) to file some flats on there. Especially if they terminate prior to the aft end in a "ring" etc.

If you don't do that, what about just a pair if incised lines at the back end?  Something to add subtle flavor to it.

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Re: Lancaster Rehab - Attempted Reclamation and Rescue of an Old Project Gone Wrong
« Reply #53 on: November 19, 2017, 01:51:13 AM »
Excellent patch, Curtis!
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Re: Lancaster Rehab - Attempted Reclamation and Rescue of an Old Project Gone Wrong
« Reply #54 on: November 22, 2017, 07:00:32 AM »
Norm and Wayne, the entry pipe after a little file work:



and thanks, dogcreek.
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Re: Lancaster Rehab - Attempted Reclamation and Rescue of an Old Project Gone Wrong
« Reply #55 on: November 22, 2017, 07:24:20 AM »
Made a rear sight from a piece of old wagon tire.  I bought the tire a few years back for a couple bucks in hopes that it could be wrought iron, turned out to be mild steel.  How many sights can you get from a wagon tire?













Also decided to go ahead and move the tang bolt forward.  Been thinking I may put a lollipop sight on the tang and may need the room for it later.  First I took a scrap, filed it a bit then drove it through the hole in the tang to size it for the hole in the stock.  A little more filing and some glue and I was in business.









Soldered a bolt end into the trigger plate, cut it off and filed flush.  The new bolt will go in the same spot at a bit different angle. 





I also welded up the tang.  Originally thought I was going to peen a plug into the hole. but decided against it since the hole was already countersunk for the bolt head and it would have been a BIG plug.  Ignore the black line, that's just a reference mark for drawfiling. 



After the Thanksgiving I'll have to redrill for the new tang bolt.

Thanks for looking,
Curtis
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Re: Lancaster Rehab - Attempted Reclamation and Rescue of an Old Project Gone Wrong
« Reply #56 on: November 22, 2017, 12:50:47 PM »
The entry pipe looks good, Curtis!  Question:  Assuming you soldered with a torch, how'd you keep from overheating the set triggers and springs?  Did you take it apart?
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Re: Lancaster Rehab - Attempted Reclamation and Rescue of an Old Project Gone Wrong
« Reply #57 on: November 22, 2017, 04:56:17 PM »
Looks like you've solved all of your problems, should be a fine gun.
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Re: Lancaster Rehab - Attempted Reclamation and Rescue of an Old Project Gone Wrong
« Reply #58 on: November 22, 2017, 05:14:30 PM »
Curtis, Nice work , and good pics !!!    I really like that sight it turned out NICE!!     Nate
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Re: Lancaster Rehab - Attempted Reclamation and Rescue of an Old Project Gone Wrong
« Reply #59 on: November 22, 2017, 08:04:45 PM »
This is fun to watch and learn - Thank you! -
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Re: Lancaster Rehab - Attempted Reclamation and Rescue of an Old Project Gone Wrong
« Reply #60 on: November 22, 2017, 10:09:23 PM »
Curtis,
Nice work. That's exactly what I was thinking for the entry pipe.
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Re: Lancaster Rehab - Attempted Reclamation and Rescue of an Old Project Gone Wrong
« Reply #61 on: November 23, 2017, 06:24:08 AM »
Great tutorial!  Thank you for your continued sharing with the rest of us.  God Bless,   Marc
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Re: Lancaster Rehab - Attempted Reclamation and Rescue of an Old Project Gone Wrong
« Reply #62 on: November 23, 2017, 07:51:54 AM »
Tanks again for your comments guys!

Quote from: SingleMalt on November 22, 2017, 12:50:47 PM
The entry pipe looks good, Curtis!  Question:  Assuming you soldered with a torch, how'd you keep from overheating the set triggers and springs?  Did you take it apart?

Malt - To be honest, no I didn't take it apart -  I did it the lazy way and used my heavy bench vice as a heat sink.   :P

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Re: Lancaster Rehab - Attempted Reclamation and Rescue of an Old Project Gone Wrong
« Reply #63 on: November 23, 2017, 04:28:03 PM »
All looking very good, Curtis!

Nice work.   :)
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Re: Lancaster Rehab - Attempted Reclamation and Rescue of an Old Project Gone Wrong
« Reply #64 on: November 29, 2017, 08:27:28 PM »
Thanks Pukka! A little more progress...

Taper reaming touch hole:





After staining with AF and LMF maple stain, before rubbing back:





Thanks for looking,
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Re: Lancaster Rehab - Attempted Reclamation and Rescue of an Old Project Gone Wrong
« Reply #65 on: November 29, 2017, 09:14:03 PM »
Curtis, find any rough spots when you stained?  Great color!
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Re: Lancaster Rehab - Attempted Reclamation and Rescue of an Old Project Gone Wrong
« Reply #66 on: November 29, 2017, 09:26:46 PM »
The color does look good!  It'll be even better with the finish on it.
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Re: Lancaster Rehab - Attempted Reclamation and Rescue of an Old Project Gone Wrong
« Reply #67 on: November 30, 2017, 07:54:37 AM »
Thanks SingleMalt!  I like the tones as well, I had hoped the grain would have popped more but I think the results will work well with the carving.

Rich, fortunately didn't find any real rough spots while staining.  I tried something a bit different this time - I applied and blushed the aquafortis the usual way, but when I followed with the LMF stain I applied it with an approx. 1-1/2" square of grey Scotch-Brite pad, rubbing somewhat vigorously.  Thus beggining the whiskering process while applying the stain.  When the stain was dry I followed up with 4-0 steel wool and then more burnishing with fresh Scoth-Brite.

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Re: Lancaster Rehab - Attempted Reclamation and Rescue of an Old Project Gone Wrong
« Reply #68 on: November 30, 2017, 08:06:44 AM »
If any grain raises after the stain, burnish it flat  after you have some oil on.  Once slicked down, it'll stay put.

Antler or very smooth bullet-shaped steel works  for burnishing.
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Re: Lancaster Rehab - Attempted Reclamation and Rescue of an Old Project Gone Wrong
« Reply #69 on: November 30, 2017, 06:20:38 PM »
Nice work curtis! Me to like the taper reamer (make mine from Jack Brooks web site)
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Re: Lancaster Rehab - Attempted Reclamation and Rescue of an Old Project Gone Wrong
« Reply #70 on: December 01, 2017, 02:35:55 AM »
Can we assume by the timing of your postings that you've gotten ALL this done in just the last 20 days?  Incredible.
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Re: Lancaster Rehab - Attempted Reclamation and Rescue of an Old Project Gone Wrong
« Reply #71 on: December 01, 2017, 06:43:31 AM »
Pukka - good info there.

Runar - I learned how to make the reamer from Jack Brooks also, only in a class at the NMLRA Gunsmithing Seminar.  He told me a story on what gave him the idea....  he was shooting an original Brown Bess and was impressed on how quickly the gun went off.  The touch hole looked rather large, but on closer examination it became apparent the touch hole was tapered, sort of like an external cone.  I have used the reamer on a couple of guns and have been happy with the results.

I recommend turning the reamer by hand or using a brace and bit, not a power drill.


Mr. Bubbles, you are correct with your estimation!  The holidays have slowed me down a bit....   ;)  Being retired helps a lot, no pesky job to get in the way.

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Re: Lancaster Rehab - Attempted Reclamation and Rescue of an Old Project Gone Wrong
« Reply #72 on: December 01, 2017, 08:12:30 AM »
Curtis,
Looks great! What do you use to age your brass like pipes and other hardware? Also can you share your technique for "rubing" them back? I appreciate all you have shared as I have one that I started and it needs some serious "restoration" if you get what I mean. Thanks for all your help and hope you all have a Merry Christmas.
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Re: Lancaster Rehab - Attempted Reclamation and Rescue of an Old Project Gone Wrong
« Reply #73 on: December 01, 2017, 08:26:08 AM »
Elkhorne, I know exactly what you mean about "restoration"!   And Merry Christmas to you as well!

I think I mostly used Birchwood Casey Super Blue for the brass patina on this rifle.  It seemed to darken it immediately and efficiently.  For rubbing it back I used grey Scotch Brite for subtle changes and 0000 steel wool when I wanted to take most of the patina off.  Sometimes I have to redo it once or twice before I like the results.  It seems like different products work better on different formulations of brass.  I have used "alumna black" made for blacking aluminum before with good results.

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Re: Lancaster Rehab - Attempted Reclamation and Rescue of an Old Project Gone Wrong
« Reply #74 on: December 01, 2017, 08:41:38 AM »
Got the rifle finished and assembled, and took it out for some photos as well as sighting it in.  I'll post the shooting results in the Black Powder Shooting forum when I get a the chance.  It was a beautiful sunny day here in mid MO today, a great day to be out but not the best for taking gun pics.  Here are some of what I took today, you will have to forgive me for the number of photos because sometimes I get a bit picture crazy:









































I still have a lot of learning to do about carving, but it was a lot of fun being able to practice on my squirrel gitter!

Thanks for looking,
Curtis
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