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Boone gun
« on: December 02, 2017, 10:44:20 AM »
Back from a little bit of a hiatus, with a great new rifle from Don Bruton. 

Custom hand built flintlock rifle, called a "Boone Gun" from Don Bruton.
38" Colerain swamped .45 cal. barrel, turns for patched round ball
Beautiful curly maple stock, hand carved and shaped by Don
Hand forged iron butt plate, trigger guard, trigger, and inlays

The pictures do not do it justice. In hand, one can feel the love and hard work that was put into this build.  The depth and character of the wood and steel are amazing.  It just seem to have a soul...   It wasn't cheap, worth every penny.  This will be passed down, hopefully for many many generations.







Any suggestions on a target load?  ball/patch/powder

I need to get out to the range!  I did go to shoot once but wind rain weather hasn't been cooperating.   :o  didn't get much in the way of results in those bad conditions, except to note, the lock and action was exceptionally reliable even in those adverse conditions! only 2 misfire, probably due to wet prime...     Love it!! 8)

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Re: Boone gun
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2017, 01:57:00 PM »
Very sharp. I love Dons guns. My main deer rifle is a Bruton made from his Boone pattern. With a 45 I would start with 50 grains of fffg an work my way up. I like thick patches an would probably start with a .433 ball an .020 patch then increase patch thickness if need be. Just my thoughts an not worth the time to type it though. Enjoy your new Bruton gun
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Re: Boone gun
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2017, 08:31:07 PM »
That's definitely an heirloom rifle.  In my .45 Lancaster I use a .440" ball and a Hoppes BP lubed .022" cotton canvas duck patch.  I like 60 grains of 3F and switch to mink oil for forays into the bush.
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2017, 08:45:54 PM »
Very nice rifle. I've always liked Don's work.

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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2017, 12:00:59 AM »
Very nice rifle. I've always liked Don's work.
Me too ... but I thought he gave up rifle builds for his knife work?

Luckily I have one of his knives.
All of my muzzleloaders will shoot into one ragged hole ALL DAY LONG ... it's just the 2nd or 3rd & other shots that tend to open up my groups ... !

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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2017, 12:02:41 AM »
Really nice. Not too flashy, but subtle beauty.

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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2017, 04:58:59 AM »
  Stunning rifle

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Re: Boone gun
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2017, 04:39:32 AM »
Thank you folks for the kind words!

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Re: Boone gun
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2017, 04:41:06 AM »
Very sharp. I love Dons guns. My main deer rifle is a Bruton made from his Boone pattern. With a 45 I would start with 50 grains of fffg an work my way up. I like thick patches an would probably start with a .433 ball an .020 patch then increase patch thickness if need be. Just my thoughts an not worth the time to type it though. Enjoy your new Bruton gun

Thank you.  That is an interesting combo.  Are you able to thing start That?

Want to try that out!

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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2017, 04:41:52 AM »
That's definitely an heirloom rifle.  In my .45 Lancaster I use a .440" ball and a Hoppes BP lubed .022" cotton canvas duck patch.  I like 60 grains of 3F and switch to mink oil for forays into the bush.

I will be trying this combo too!  Thank you

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Re: Boone gun
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2017, 01:00:19 PM »
Very sharp. I love Dons guns. My main deer rifle is a Bruton made from his Boone pattern. With a 45 I would start with 50 grains of fffg an work my way up. I like thick patches an would probably start with a .433 ball an .020 patch then increase patch thickness if need be. Just my thoughts an not worth the time to type it though. Enjoy your new Bruton gun

Thank you.  That is an interesting combo.  Are you able to thing start That?

Want to try that out!
I dont own a 45 but I did build one for a friend an he use's that very combo an it thumbstarts just fine an loads very easy with a deer tallow lube. He has taken quite a few deer with it
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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2017, 06:22:56 PM »
Very sharp. I love Dons guns. My main deer rifle is a Bruton made from his Boone pattern. With a 45 I would start with 50 grains of fffg an work my way up. I like thick patches an would probably start with a .433 ball an .020 patch then increase patch thickness if need be. Just my thoughts an not worth the time to type it though. Enjoy your new Bruton gun

Thank you.  That is an interesting combo.  Are you able to thing start That?

Want to try that out!
I dont own a 45 but I did build one for a friend an he use's that very combo an it thumbstarts just fine an loads very easy with a deer tallow lube. He has taken quite a few deer with it

When I did the test fire I used a .445 ball + .020 spit patch and it was rather difficult to start and ram after the first shot. Thinking this bore is on the tighter side than my other .45 rifle I have.  I do have .440 and just ordered some .437 and .433.  Thank you for that suggestion.  I never thought to go that undersized.

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Re: Boone gun
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2017, 08:18:52 AM »
Very nice rifle!  Well done.

As to loads, you can use whatever you want - however, in my .45, 42" bl. with 60" twist, my plinking loads for a water-based lube used for target shooting, was a .445" ball and .022" denim patch.

With a nice smooth crown, this was easily started and shoved home on the powder.  Almost the same accuracy, not quite - maybe 1/2" larger but still at an inch at 50yards, was the same patch and a .440" ball. That one was VERY easy to load (they both were) after multiple rounds - say, up to 50 or 60 shots on the trail, with no wiping and no loading problems.  The only buildup of fouling is in the powder chamber area, which was not much.

I would never consider using a ball smaller than .440" as the pressures are very much higher in the smaller bores than the larger ones.

With a water based lube, I found 65gr. of 3F worked just fine with my preferred .445" ball.  If using a slippery lube like Hoppe's #9 Plus black powder lube, or LHV, I had to use 75.0gr. of 3F to get the same accuracy.  I also found that 85.0gr. 2f GOEX gave me the same accuracy with the .445" ball and .022" patch, that 75.0gr. of 3f gave. Too, the velocities were almost identical.

A water based lube, ie: Winter Windshield Washer Fluid + a couple ounce of Neetsfoot oil per liter of fluid, made a terrific cold weather lube as it did not freeze. In hot weather, the oil slowed the evapouration rate as well, so a bunch of us use this all year. 

The points of impact were very close to being the same, with the slippery lube and high velocity almost the same poi.
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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2017, 12:53:54 PM »
Very nice rifle!  Well done.

As to loads, you can use whatever you want - however, in my .45, 42" bl. with 60" twist, my plinking loads for a water-based lube used for target shooting, was a .445" ball and .022" denim patch.

With a nice smooth crown, this was easily started and shoved home on the powder.  Almost the same accuracy, not quite - maybe 1/2" larger but still at an inch at 50yards, was the same patch and a .440" ball. That one was VERY easy to load (they both were) after multiple rounds - say, up to 50 or 60 shots on the trail, with no wiping and no loading problems.  The only buildup of fouling is in the powder chamber area, which was not much.

I would never consider using a ball smaller than .440" as the pressures are very much higher in the smaller bores than the larger ones.

With a water based lube, I found 65gr. of 3F worked just fine with my preferred .445" ball.  If using a slippery lube like Hoppe's #9 Plus black powder lube, or LHV, I had to use 75.0gr. of 3F to get the same accuracy.  I also found that 85.0gr. 2f GOEX gave me the same accuracy with the .445" ball and .022" patch, that 75.0gr. of 3f gave. Too, the velocities were almost identical.

A water based lube, ie: Winter Windshield Washer Fluid + a couple ounce of Neetsfoot oil per liter of fluid, made a terrific cold weather lube as it did not freeze. In hot weather, the oil slowed the evapouration rate as well, so a bunch of us use this all year. 

The points of impact were very close to being the same, with the slippery lube and high velocity almost the same poi.
Thank you Daryl.  I have also ordered some denim of various weight to try out.

I certainly will try many options.

I will also be trying mink oil for lube using your method of patch soaking. 

Great info!