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Offline davebozell

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Barrel inletting
« on: December 05, 2017, 03:46:00 AM »
I am not an expert at barrel inletting, but I thought I would share my method for hand-inletting.  I know it is not on everyone's favorite task list, but I find it rewarding since I am only doing this for enjoyment.  The rails shown are 1/4" X 1/2" steel stock from McMaster-Carr. 






The holes are drilled into the steel along the outboard edge, to keep the screw holes away from the finished stock.  Countersink the holes, and use flathead screws to secure the rails along the barrel.  The rails are flexible enough to conform to a straight or swamped barrel.  I use the rails to have a square edge to align my chisel as I remove the first layer of wood. 








Once I have removed the first "layer" of wood, I remove the rails (mostly to keep from bleeding on the wood as I continue...)

The next step is to remove the bottom layer of the inlet.




Then the next step is to complete the bottom of the inlet by removing the angled portion of the inlet.




Once that is complete it's time to get out your favorite inletting transfer media and fine tune the inlet, inserting the barrel into the channel and removing it to continue to remove wood until the barrel is down in the stock as far as you would like.  It's best to go very slowly with lots of test fitting.  This is a relatively short pistol barrel, and even though I work very slowly, I still completed it in a couple hours.









I'm sure there are many ways to do this, but it has worked fairly well for me.  I hope that you will give barrel inletting a try.

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Re: Barrel inletting
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2017, 07:31:04 AM »
I like this method, I think I will try it.  Thank you,

Ed

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Re: Barrel inletting
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2017, 03:46:41 PM »
 They used to use rails like that at the Gunsmith's shop in Williamsburg, don't know if they still do or not.

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Re: Barrel inletting
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2017, 05:05:01 PM »
I believe it was Wallace Gusler that first came up with this method after he noted evidence of saw kerf marks on the vertical side of barrel inlets on original rifles. If it is good enough for Wallace, it should be good enough for anybody. In the book, Gunsmithing Tips and Techniques which is a collection of old gunsmithing articles from Rifle magazine ( which every new builder should read and refer too often) John Bivins goes into great detail on this method and how to modify the saw needed to make the vertical cut which he learned from Wallace. But it looks like you covered all the bases. In my experience this technique is better for swamped and flared barrels, straight barrels are so easy to rough out and inlet, it doesn't save much if any time.
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Re: Barrel inletting
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2017, 05:21:07 PM »
I  did my first 16 barrels just like that. Then I was introduced to Fred Miller. My life was forever changed from that point on. ;)
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Re: Barrel inletting
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2017, 05:50:31 PM »
Dave,

I like letting in barrels by hand, but I don't use those rails.  If you mark the vertical flats of the barrel carefully on you blank and make your initial stabbing cuts along the barrel sides with care the rails are completely unnecessary.  Those thick rails would be a challenge to use if that barrel were swamped.

So you can use rails if you like.  In my book its preferable to hiring the task out.  But I just don't see the need for the rails and the holes and the screws when I can cut the side flat line in with a chisel and then use that to guide my saw.  I have an MSWord file around here, somewhere, that explains how I do it.  Seems to work for me.

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Re: Barrel inletting
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2017, 09:19:10 PM »
I've used the same method for many years when doing swamped and tapered barrels. I have saw cuts (kerf) in the sides of the rails in the heavily swamped area so they bend in tight to the barrel while using c-clamps....prior to drilling screw holes.
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Re: Barrel inletting
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2017, 09:54:05 PM »
This method is also the way I inlet barrels - straight, tapered and swamped.  My instruction came from Biven's articles in Rifle mag which I compiled into a book of my own.  John had a wonderful talent at being able to explain things to make a newby understand.  I still go back and read his articles, just for the pleasure of reading his explanations.
I use cold rolled 3/8" key stock for my guides.  I drilled holes as close to the outside edges as possible to pass gyprock screws.  No countersink is necessary.  In the areas of the swamp the holes are considerably closer together.
Here's the process:  I lay out my bandsawed blank and clamp the barrel over the centre line of the barrel inlet.  Then I clamp the rails to the barrel.  The 3/8" square rails butt up against the vertical flats of the barrel, where 1/4" rails may try to scoot under them.  With everything clamped up, I use a punch made to just slip into the holes in the rails to centre punch every hole.  I then drill an undersized hole to receive the gyprock screws.  Screwing down the rails is next.  Then the barrel can be lifted out off the stock blank.









I made a special saw from a rip saw to cut on the pull stroke, and removed the set of the kerf from one side.  This side of the saw slides down the inside edges of the rails cutting to a mark scratched on the inside face.  You cut toward the breech on one side and toward the muzzle on the other.  Now a 1" chisel removes the wood in the channel up to the bottom of the saw cut, leaving a ridge down the centre that is removed with a big gouge and a mallet.  Using the same 1" chisel, I slide it down the inside edges of the steel rails to make a clean vertical cut for the side flats of the barrel, as the saw, having its set removed, tends to want to curve inwardly.  Now the rails can be removed, having served their purpose.



In order to get the depth right, I make a felt pen mark every three inches along the barrel and measure the dimension across the flat at each mark.  I divide that by two (only half of the barrel goes into the channel) and add .020" to get the barrel a little below the top of the half way point. 
This wood is removed later during finishing.  Those dimensions are written on the top of the stock at their appropriate points, and starting at the breech, I fully inlet the barrel to that depth until I reach the muzzle.  Layout colour (Jarrow's in my case) applied lightly with a piece of cotton towel shows where wood has to be removed.
It takes me about seven hours to inlet a 46" barrel.  It is not hard work and is very satisfying, but obviously you have to pay attention, and chisels and scrapers need to be as sharp as they can be.











I'm posting this to compliment Dave's thread and to reinforce an excellent and simple method to inlet a barrel.  Also, I believe this tutorial exists in that forum, but will have lost its images.  Perhaps Dave's thread can replace it.
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Re: Barrel inletting
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2017, 10:34:25 PM »
Hi Guys,
Great post!
We all have our special ways of completing a task such as this, some way over complicated such as mine, or as simple and clean as above.
A long time ago, I was frustrated because the gun was not complete in twenty minutes or so.
Until I learned it was fun at each stage, and enjoy the journey. And yet I cringe every time I inlet an inlet pipe. I still wish they had a big chisel that would do it in one simple strike. ( I haven't learned much, have I ? ) Butt plates are on the same boat as well !
The steel rails are a great Idea!
Thank you!
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