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Good Choice?
« on: January 12, 2018, 08:03:35 PM »
As I mentioned in the Cap or Flint thread. I always wanted a nice long rifle in flint. Not to heavy with a swamped barrel and about 38". In .50 for just deer and target shooting. Not barrel heavy so it's easy on my back.

I have a friend that will build it for me, so a kit is what i'm after. Also, a lefty if possible. I came up with an Isaac Haines rifle in a Jim Chambers kit.

What do you think?

http://www.flintlocks.com/rifles02.htm





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Re: Good Choice?
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2018, 08:12:21 PM »
I have the Issac Haines in 50 caliber with a swamped barrel.  It is proably one of my best balanced guns for carrying and shooting. Very light weight with the swamped barrel.
 It has a 38 inch barrel.
You will not go wrong if that is what you want.
 Mine has a wooden patch box and quite a bit of carving on it.
You will like the Issac Haines if its any where close to mine.
 Mine does not have a makers mark any where on it. It is very well made. Wish I knew who built the rifle. It has a chambers lock that is top of the line.




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Re: Good Choice?
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2018, 08:21:56 PM »
That's what I wanted to hear. A well balanced gun is my goal. Yours looks good. I always liked the wooden patch box too. I don't like a lot of flash.

Thank you.

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Re: Good Choice?
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2018, 08:25:27 PM »
Mine has a single trigger which is very light on the pull.  No creep in it. For a fairly big caliber I don't believe you can find a better balance light rifle.
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Re: Good Choice?
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2018, 08:31:14 PM »
OldMtnMan,

You will love it.  I have one, 38 inch, .50 cal.  It's my favorite deer rifle and shooting match rifle.  Mine is iron mounted, with double set triggers and I put a little carving on it.  The pictures are when it was almost finished.  The barrel, pins and other parts are much darker now.













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Re: Good Choice?
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2018, 08:36:55 PM »
Years ago I used one of the Dunlap Lancaster kits to make an Early Jacob Dickert with one of the side opening Brass patch boxes. It was a 38 inch C profile 54 cal. Really handled well.

Personally I would go with a 54 cal instead of a 50 cal. 60 - 70 grains of Goex is plenty for deer and mine had very little little recoil. Plus its lighter to carry due to larger bore.
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Re: Good Choice?
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2018, 08:48:48 PM »
I would also recommend you get the 54 caliber barrel.

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Re: Good Choice?
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2018, 08:57:22 PM »
Here we go again.  I have owned 54 and 58 caliber rifles but see no reason for them when hunting anything other than maybe a grizzly.
 The Issac Haines with its short swamped barrel is one the lightest rifles I have owned.  Its also one the best feeling rifles when shooting off hand for me.  I would say its about as perfect feeling rifle one could own if like mine.  Mine looks pretty much like KY-Flinters rifle with same hardware.
 Everyone their own on caliber that makes them happy.
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Re: Good Choice?
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2018, 09:01:57 PM »
Good stuff guys. I'll think about the caliber. It will take me awhile to save from my SS check, so time to think about all of it. I'm pretty set on this kit. It comes with Jim's fast lock too. I'll have to decide what barrel maker I want.


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Re: Good Choice?
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2018, 09:23:10 PM »
Local lad up here has a .54 Isaac Haines rifle Taylor built back in the 80's. It's a splendid rifle and would do for about everything in NA.
Len shoots it very well indeed.
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Re: Good Choice?
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2018, 09:24:52 PM »
A friend has one in 54, great handling and well balanced. I would like one in 58 or 62 with a D weight barrel but don't think Jim makes them in that contour.

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Re: Good Choice?
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2018, 09:40:35 PM »
Yeah, he has the option to make it smaller, but .50-.54 is standard and nothing bigger.

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Re: Good Choice?
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2018, 10:03:08 PM »
A friend of mine built Chambers' Isaac Haines rifle in .50 cal in my shop several years ago.  It turned out very nicely ... very light weight and handy in the bush.  Feels like a much shorter rifle than 38" bbl.   I'd call it a perfect deer woods rifle.







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Re: Good Choice?
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2018, 10:10:20 PM »
Too flashy for me, but beautiful.

I'm more the browned furniture type.

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Re: Good Choice?
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2018, 10:59:40 PM »
Pete,

I looked hard at this kit for my first real flintlock.  I think ideal for you in .54.  (lighter barrel)
Made one for my son in .54 with a 38" barrel, and it feels a Lot shorter and lighter than it is.  (Not a chambers kit though)

I don't think you'll be sorry about your choice.
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Re: Good Choice?
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2018, 11:02:27 PM »
All my flints are 38" 'cept for a .45 which is 36".  Three of the rifles carry swamped barrels and are delightful.  My favorite is a .50 and sort of a "fantasy" rifle.  "B" wgt rb Rice barrel and 12.5 lop.  Very, very light and handy with a 38" tube.  It would be called a "youth's" rifle, I suppose.

 
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Re: Good Choice?
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2018, 12:08:22 AM »
Pete,

I looked hard at this kit for my first real flintlock.  I think ideal for you in .54.  (lighter barrel)
Made one for my son in .54 with a 38" barrel, and it feels a Lot shorter and lighter than it is.  (Not a chambers kit though)

I don't think you'll be sorry about your choice.
Richard.




Very nice. I like that look.

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Re: Good Choice?
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2018, 12:11:32 AM »
All my flints are 38" 'cept for a .45 which is 36".  Three of the rifles carry swamped barrels and are delightful.  My favorite is a .50 and sort of a "fantasy" rifle.  "B" wgt rb Rice barrel and 12.5 lop.  Very, very light and handy with a 38" tube.  It would be called a "youth's" rifle, I suppose.

 

Yeah, that LOP would have my thumb up my nose. Jim's kit is 13 3/4" and that should be good for me. Even 14" works, but it's close enough as is. Gives me some room for extra clothing.

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Re: Good Choice?
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2018, 04:00:53 AM »
Nice looking rifle Pukka.  :)

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Re: Good Choice?
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2018, 04:24:53 AM »
  Puducca I like your gun...you just gave me idea for my next build....Just need the barrel...

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Re: Good Choice?
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2018, 06:33:04 AM »
Oldtravler,

The barrel's a Colerain C weight in .54 if I remember right.
Have 3 new barrels in the eaves, but .50, .58 and a 16 bore  42" to work on.  Minus 35 last night and hard to keep shop warm.


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Re: Good Choice?
« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2018, 05:48:14 PM »
  P.B. Yep in the same boat...since one of the kids moved back my winter shop in the basement got closed.  Way to cold for the outside shop...
  Thanks for the barrel info...

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Re: Good Choice?
« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2018, 07:12:22 PM »
Pete and all,

I did put the above gun of forum a while ago. Think you saw it, but it's here if you want to look;

http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=46458.0

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Re: Good Choice?
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2018, 07:24:07 PM »
Pete and all,

I did put the above gun of forum a while ago. Think you saw it, but it's here if you want to look;

http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=46458.0

Beautiful gun. You did a great job building it. I'm impressed with the talent it takes to do it. I wish I had the skill and a shop to do it. I'm a slave to having it done.

Although you did put the lock on the wrong side.  :D

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Re: Good Choice?
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2018, 07:41:58 AM »
Pete,

I was going to be smart and flip the image for you, but I'm Not smart enough to figure out how you do that!