Dembart veiner tools??

[Justin Urbantas]

I heard some people use the dembart veiner tools to outline carving, and cut incised lines. Their website lists a 60 and 90 degree tool. Which one do you use, or are both useful?? Thanks guys

[smylee grouch]

I don't have a dembart but I use a 60 degree sharpcut IIRC. and I like it.

[Curtis]

Justin, I use a 60 degree Dembart.  It works for incised carving as well - used one some on this rifle.





Curtis

[Justin Urbantas]

Justin, I use a 60 degree Dembart.  It works for incised carving as well - used one some on this rifle.





Curtis

Very nice looking. How do you sharpen your veiner?  Seems tricky

[Hemo]

Here's a link to a very long and very wordy treatise on V-tools and sharpening. You can probably skim the obvious stuff and go straight to the sharpening. (Note that the tool this guy is using is many times larger than a Dembart!)

http://www.bob-easton.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/SelectingAndSharpeningYourVtool.pdf

I also recommend the 60 degree tool. I have a Dembart and also a palm-sized V-tool I think from  Pfeil. They both work fine.

Gregg

[Curtis]

Thanks Justin, and as for your comment, yes it is kinda tricky sharpening a v-gouge!
Here are some links that describe the process pretty well, hope they help some.

http://www.finewoodworking.com/2009/10/29/sharpening-the-v-tool
https://makezine.com/2015/11/02/sharpening-gouges-v-chisels/

and the ultimate authority: http://www.bob-easton.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/SelectingAndSharpeningYourVtool.pdf

Curtis

[Curtis]

Oops looks like Gregg beat me to the Bob Easton link!

Curtis

[Cody Tetachuk]

For clarification, a "veiner" or "Veining tool" is "U" shaped and gets it's name from it's use in adding Veins to leaves. A "V" shaped cutter is a "parting tool" or V cutter.

[David Rase]

For clarification, a "veiner" or "Veining tool" is "U" shaped and gets it's name from it's use in adding Veins to leaves. A "V" shaped cutter is a "parting tool" or V cutter.

Cody,
You beat me to it.  I was going to post a clarification. 
David

[Justin]

For clarification, a "veiner" or "Veining tool" is "U" shaped and gets it's name from it's use in adding Veins to leaves. A "V" shaped cutter is a "parting tool" or V cutter.

Thanks, I was also confused by this difference.

[Justin]

For my V tool, I use a slipstrop block like this:
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/flexcut-slipstrop-sharpening-kit?gclid=CjwKCAiA15vTBRAHEiwA7Snfc6HK5Ou3BuR8yezpvZxPoCV2dP_wwi4ADZPcnBsTYzREweRUwMxaihoC_DwQAvD_BwE

Haven't needed to use a stone or anything on it yet even though I'm sure it would benefit.

[Justin Urbantas]

For clarification, a "veiner" or "Veining tool" is "U" shaped and gets it's name from it's use in adding Veins to leaves. A "V" shaped cutter is a "parting tool" or V cutter.

Cody,
You beat me to it.  I was going to post a clarification. 
David

Oh. I thought they were both the same thing. What is the advantage or one over the other for cutting incised lines or outlining carving?

[Mauser06]

The v tool has a sharper angle in the bottom.. nearly a V..

Veiners are more U shaped.  I don't know if they actually have a place to cutting relief or incised lines?  I guess if you had a VERY narrow one..I'd think the U vs the sharper V would give a softer line..


Veiners are typically used for modeling leaves or whatever in relief carving..

Be interested to hear from some that are more knowledgeable. 

[Cody Tetachuk]

Depending on the type of incise you are doing and the effect you are after either can be used. If you are doing  simple incise lines/outline, I find a very small veiner (U shape) to be great as you can easily maintain a consistent line diameter. If you want/need your lines to have varied width for effect then a V tool is much better. JMO. Others' mileage may vary.