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Baker rifle
« on: March 04, 2018, 01:57:49 AM »
Hello to all.  I have wanted an original Kentucky rifle for a long time.  Today at an estate sale there was one that was really not in very good shape but I bought it anyway.  The barrel seems to be in fairly good shape but the stock is missing the front and is missing the lock and trigger mechanism.  I bought it because i could tell when it was new it was a nice rifle and I love history.  The top flat had the script initial "J" or "g" and Baker as the last name. It appears around .40 caliber or thereabouts.  I want to try to post a picture of the barrel and stock so the members of this board can look at it as I feel you are probably experts in this field. Any help on how to post a picture would be appreciated.
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Re: Baker rifle
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2018, 03:21:11 AM »
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Any help on how to post a picture would be appreciated.
It might be as simple as clicking on the "add image to post" that is immediately below where you type the text in a message.
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Re: Baker rifle
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2018, 04:26:13 AM »
I am trying to get some pictures from my phone to this post.

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Re: Baker rifle
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2018, 05:33:57 AM »
Could be Griffith baker. Anxious to see it. Email to suzkat11@penn.com. I will post
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Re: Baker rifle
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2018, 10:26:50 PM »
Well, I had my son try to help me post pictures. NO luck. I really want to get some pictures so the experts here can see what my rifle is and where it came from.  If anyone knows how any suggestions would be appreciated. I did not see any wording to "add image to post'.

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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2018, 10:36:19 PM »
Go to Profile then to Modify profile then to look and settings and change your theme to curve.  You then should have add image to post under your quick reply.
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2018, 10:41:41 PM »
Import your images from your phone to your desktop on your computer.  Then use the "Add image to post" feature found just below the rectangle you are typing your reply in.
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Re: Baker rifle
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2018, 12:13:05 AM »
Thank you Shreckmeister and all that have tried to help me.  I did go change my profile to curve and that did add the wording to post an image but it just showed writing and not the pictures.  I just sent the pictures to Shreckmeister. Thank you and good luck posting them. I did note to him that my rifle looks like it was used as a club at least once.

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Re: Baker rifle
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2018, 01:51:02 AM »
« Last Edit: March 05, 2018, 01:52:09 AM by Shreckmeister »
Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.

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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2018, 05:04:51 PM »
Thank you Shreckmeister and all that have tried to help me.  I did go change my profile to curve and that did add the wording to post an image but it just showed writing and not the pictures.  I just sent the pictures to Shreckmeister. Thank you and good luck posting them. I did note to him that my rifle looks like it was used as a club at least once.
Click on that link ad picture to post and it should give you the option to browse your computer to where the pictures are located.  Select the pictures and upload them.
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Re: Baker rifle
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2018, 05:42:19 PM »
Thank you Iloco. Once I uploaded them I did not see how to get them to the message. I was on my phone as the pictures are on my phone.  I clicked on the add image, selected the images and they did not appear in the message.

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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2018, 05:44:21 PM »
I use a computer so not sure how iphone might work. 
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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2018, 05:58:10 PM »


Test from iPhone.
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Re: Baker rifle
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2018, 06:34:00 PM »
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Any help on how to post a picture would be appreciated.
It might be as simple as clicking on the "add image to post" that is immediately below where you type the text in a message.

Yeah, this is a function of which "version" of the system here we're on.  I was on the "wrong" one for quite a while.  Just changed it around recently.  While looking at the options, where it tells how many forumites are using this or that "style" of page, I noticed quite a few on the "wrong" one.  I'm not sure how that other style page is beneficial to anyone, but to lend to this confusion.
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Re: Baker rifle
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2018, 06:38:00 PM »
Those are some nice rifles.  After having read some of the posts on this site I realize I know nothing of this field. It seems like to me that the fact that there were so many individual makers/schools and differing abilities that this collecting field could take a lifetime to get adept at.

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Re: Baker rifle
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2018, 06:47:11 PM »
My rifle appears to have been used as a club.  The tang is bent, stock is snapped and cracked and for end is gone. I don't know what happened to it but there is also a barrel obstruction.  I am trying to determine if I should leave it alone or repair and restock so I can shoot it. I am totally a novice at these type of rifles. I made a half stock Hawken style rifle many years ago when I was a kid to shoot.  I still have it. I shot once at a "blanket shoot" I think they called it and won a patch knife.  I remember a man there having a panel van that had maybe 5 or 6 original long rifles hanging inside the van.  It was awesome.

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Re: Baker rifle
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2018, 07:17:51 PM »
Oh, Wow! Looks like somebody salvaged all the parts on this rifle. Maybe they left the barrel because it was unusable.

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Re: Baker rifle
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2018, 10:11:27 PM »
The estate sale showed that the man was a blackpowder guy to some degree.  There was a partially inletted stock blank that did not fit this rifle or I would have gotten that.  I did buy an original powder flask for shotgun use that measured 3, 3 1/4, 3 1/2, and 4 drams of powder.  I have an old Pedersoli double barrel I hunt doves with and needed a good flask like that.  I had bought an old shot bag from another estate sale in the past.

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Re: Baker rifle
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2018, 01:28:15 AM »
So what's the concensus.  J. Baker or G. Baker?
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Re: Baker rifle
« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2018, 02:04:52 AM »
I'll go with a G.

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« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2018, 02:39:47 AM »
I found a picture of a rifle in "Long Rifles of Virginia" signed G. Baker with the same finial on the patch box.
George Baker (1762-1844) born in Lancaster Pa. died in Monongalia Va. Lived with Peter Gonter (gunsmith) and John and Peter Ferree ( gunsmith's) from 1783 -1785. Moved to Va. 1789 and set up shop there in Monongalia county.

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Re: Baker rifle
« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2018, 04:02:39 AM »
I am going to clean the inside of the barrel, if possible.  I have made a ball puller and put a lot of WD-40 down the barrel.  It appears I am making progress.  The stuff coming out does not look like lead but almost like oil soaked (WD-40) hard dirt. I'm not sure what it is but I can get a ball puller into it and pull out what comes in the screw threads.  I'm going to be patient and do a little at a time until the barrel can be cleaned.

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Re: Baker rifle
« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2018, 06:55:06 AM »
Rip,  your images may not upload because they are too large in your phone format.

There are free photoresizer apps for your phone.  Resize to 640 x 480 then upload.
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