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Offline Hudnut

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Doglock, Matchlock
« on: March 05, 2018, 04:02:13 PM »
Made this some 40 years ago for a musket project that hasn't happened (yet?).
Lock is about 7 1/2" long.







Started the matchlock about the same time as the doglock.  Formed the basin in pan by heating the piece red hot, and driving in the ball end of a ball pein hammer.







« Last Edit: March 07, 2018, 03:08:36 AM by Hudnut »

Offline rich pierce

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Re: Doglock
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2018, 04:44:48 PM »
Nicely done!  Looks stout. Would be great on an early fowler or musket.
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Re: Doglock
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2018, 04:46:22 PM »
Nice Work!   I wish I had a few of those for projects.  Nate

Offline Pukka Bundook

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Re: Doglock
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2018, 05:34:50 PM »
Looks a very right shape, Hudnut.

Scear spring may be a bit shorter than was used at the time, but  a Very good job!

I have one, but it's an ancient old huge effort. No idea what I'd fit it to. Plate is about 9" long. Needs a steel making. (Frizzen that is)


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Re: Doglock
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2018, 04:24:31 AM »
Hudnut,

Am I seeing this right?  It appears that the sear is catching an additional notch on the tumbler to arrest the cock instead of there being a shoulder on the cock that contacts the lock plate.  Am I missing something in these photos?

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Re: Doglock
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2018, 06:25:42 AM »
The cock stops against the top of the plate.  There is no contact between the tumbler and the sear nose when the cock is at rest.

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Re: Doglock, Matchlock
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2018, 03:44:43 AM »
Added a late 17th century style matchlock.  I think the plate came out of the same piece of steel as the doglock plate.
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Offline Marcruger

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Re: Doglock, Matchlock
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2018, 04:40:18 AM »
A most cool doglock!  I like it a lot.  Marc

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Re: Doglock, Matchlock
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2018, 07:50:23 AM »
How thick did you make the cock on the matchlock.I used 1/4" for mine.Not sure if that was too thin.
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Offline Greg Pennell

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Re: Doglock, Matchlock
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2018, 05:46:18 PM »
Pukka, that big ol’ lock might make up into a nice wall gun...I’ve seen a 1” bore used at the re-enactment at Martin's Station in Virginia, and it’s pretty impressive.

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Re: Doglock, Matchlock
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2018, 06:54:05 PM »
The matchlock's serpentine is less than 1/4" thick.  Made from two pieces laminated/welded together.

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Re: Doglock, Matchlock
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2018, 08:22:10 PM »
I see what Long John is saying.  I assume it is the angle of the camera.  The cock is at rest and it looks like the tumbler has a third notch in which the sear is engaged.  I like the work though.  Been thinking about a doglock project.
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Offline Jerry V Lape

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Re: Doglock, Matchlock
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2018, 02:33:24 AM »
I am not familiar with dog locks at all.  Had assumed the mechanism fired by the trigger moving the external lock out of the notch in the cock.  So it now appears the function of the dog is to serve as a safety with the tumbler and sear functioning as in a flintlock?  Is this correct? 

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Re: Doglock, Matchlock
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2018, 02:42:13 AM »
Pukka, that big ol’ lock might make up into a nice wall gun...I’ve seen a 1” bore used at the re-enactment at Martin's Station in Virginia, and it’s pretty impressive.

Greg

I'll second that. Taylor made a 1" underhammer rifle for a fellow once - weighted about 50 pounds - 2 1/2" across the flats, seems to me- and VERY long.

We used about 300gr. 2F and got about a 3' group at 300 yards on the back berm.  Actual group size was difficult to discern due to the roughly 1 1/2 yards of dirt airbone at each impact.
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Re: Doglock, Matchlock
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2018, 02:42:51 AM »
Hudnut- those locks are SUPER!!!!!!!!  that matchlock is most intriguing.
Daryl

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Re: Doglock, Matchlock
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2018, 03:04:16 AM »
I am not familiar with dog locks at all.  Had assumed the mechanism fired by the trigger moving the external lock out of the notch in the cock.  So it now appears the function of the dog is to serve as a safety with the tumbler and sear functioning as in a flintlock?  Is this correct?

It is just an external safety catch.  To apply it, half cock the lock, then pull the cock back slightly and engage the catch.  When engaged, the cock is held slightly back from half cock, but the tip of the sear is still in the notch.  Draw the cock back to full cock, and the dog is automatically shifted clear.
There are "English" locks that may have dog catches, but use lateral sears which engage the tail of the cock at full cock, not the tumbler.