Author Topic: BULL BUFFALO HORN (Read 12473 times)

louieparker · « **on:** March 08, 2018, 08:04:04 PM »

Where can I find a bull buffalo horn that would be suitable to make a copy of this horn. Appears to be a good size horn. This is a horn in the Missouri Historical Society Museum in St. Louis. It was owned by William Clark; Louie

Black Hand · « **Reply #1 on:** March 08, 2018, 08:33:46 PM »

I've often admired this particular horn. I hope to reproduce it one day....

Tim Crosby · « **Reply #2 on:** March 08, 2018, 08:48:34 PM »

Louie,
Give these folks a call, tell them what size you are looking for and they will fix you up.

https://www.hideandfur.com/inventory/2208.html

Tim C.

louieparker · « **Reply #3 on:** March 08, 2018, 09:51:59 PM »

Tim thanks ! I will give them a try....LP

Roger B · « **Reply #4 on:** March 09, 2018, 01:02:22 AM »

I love St Louis horns and have one that was done by the Sibleys. It was based on a horn that was owned by Audubon & probably was engraved by Catlin. The problem is that it's too darned pretty to use, though a little honest wear would probably give even more character.
Roger B.

trentOH · « **Reply #5 on:** March 09, 2018, 01:49:50 AM »

The OBVIOUS problem with that horn is that you would sit down, start looking at and admiring the horn, and not even notice a herd of deer walking past you.

Marcruger · « **Reply #6 on:** March 09, 2018, 03:56:23 AM »

I believe Powerhorns and More has bison horns too. God Bless, Marc

iloco · « **Reply #7 on:** March 09, 2018, 04:20:09 PM »

That is a fine looking horn. I would like to have one of the St Louis horns. Maybe Scott Sibley will come up with a couple for sale.

louieparker · « **Reply #8 on:** March 09, 2018, 04:54:42 PM »

iloco I contacted Scott. He said he recently had surgery and was sort of burned out on those horns after making several last year. I can sure understand that. I haven't made a horn since the sixties but may give it a try.....LP

iloco · « **Reply #9 on:** March 09, 2018, 04:59:47 PM »

Quote from: louieparker on March 09, 2018, 04:54:42 PM

iloco I contacted Scott. He said he recently had surgery and was sort of burned out on those horns after making several last year. I can sure understand that. I haven't made a horn since the sixties but may give it a try.....LP

Thanks louie. I know I havent seen any new horns from him for a while. Be sure and post a picdture if you make a St Louis Horn.

louieparker · « **Reply #10 on:** March 09, 2018, 06:12:17 PM »

iloco It will certainly be a learning experience for me.. Might be something I don't want anyone to see.

I recently completed a copy of one of Clarks rifles and though it would be nice to have a copy of his horn as well....Not sure how that will work out. Louie

Tim Crosby · « **Reply #11 on:** March 09, 2018, 06:27:19 PM »

There is one other person you may want to check with, Top of the Line Work:

http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=45669.msg448583#msg448583

Tim C.

Hope you don't mind Ron.

Longknife · « **Reply #12 on:** March 09, 2018, 06:42:21 PM »

Quote from: louieparker on March 09, 2018, 06:12:17 PM

iloco It will certainly be a learning experience for me.. Might be something I don't want anyone to see. I recently completed a copy of one of Clarks rifles and though it would be nice to have a copy of his horn as well....Not sure how that will work out. Louie

Louie, if there are no pics posted, then it didn't happen!!! But I know it did!! So lets see that Clark rifle!!!

louieparker · « **Reply #13 on:** March 09, 2018, 07:41:04 PM »

Tim thanks again.....I may just do that. Though in a weird sort of way I was looking forward to the challenge. But I really don't need another challenge..

Longknife Believe me it happened. I have no photos of the completed rifle yet. It may be awhile.. My wife usually takes my photos and she is not up to the task. I plan to take it to the Knoxville show next month,, Maybe I can talk someone there into to doing it.. I think at least two fellows will be taking photos.. Louie

PS> Longknife is responsible for me going down this Creamer path.. I was not aware of this until he sent me photos a few years ago. That rifle really got my attention. I couldn't believe that an iron mounted rifle like that had been so close to me and I not know of it.

Gun Butcher · « **Reply #14 on:** March 10, 2018, 12:14:15 PM »

Don’t mind at all Tim. I appreciate the atta boy.

Ron

jdm · « **Reply #15 on:** March 10, 2018, 04:48:27 PM »

I saw the unfinished rifle of Louie's at the Princeton Longrifle show.
The Creamer is a screamer !!!

Longknife · « **Reply #16 on:** March 12, 2018, 07:04:24 PM »

Louie, I already have the horn, go ahead and send me my rifle,,, no I'll come and get it, this afternoon OK ?...Ed

louieparker · « **Reply #17 on:** March 12, 2018, 09:38:16 PM »

Ed I may have to settle for one like that...
Today I got in two 14 inch horns..They looked like a tree that had been struck by lightning a couple of times with wood and bark hanging down all over them..I rasp and scraped a couple of hours on one of them and got it semi smooth. Then trimmed the ends and come out with a 13 inch horn which is too short. I think it needs to finish at least 14 to get the proportions close to right...So I need at least a 15 inch and preferably a 16 inch raw horn. I got these out of Idaho.. I called Horns and More and no luck.. Any ideas

? Louie

louieparker · « **Reply #18 on:** March 13, 2018, 12:08:45 AM »

I found horns that I an told are 15 inch...I hope they give me more finished length...LP

Tim Crosby · « **Reply #19 on:** March 13, 2018, 12:39:22 AM »

Quote from: louieparker on March 13, 2018, 12:08:45 AM

I found horns that I an told are 15 inch...I hope they give me more finished length...LP

I have found that proportion becomes a problem with larger Buff horns, as they get longer the base really increases, I have one here that is about 10 1/2" around the outside curve but almost 3" at the Butt. Their drastic curve makes them look even more out of proportion. I bought a few par from a Buffalo ranch here is Ohio a couple years ago but I cannot fin his contact info.
How long is the one that Ed posted?

Tim

louieparker · « **Reply #20 on:** March 13, 2018, 01:08:59 AM »

I don't really know. But I doubt its 8 inches...I am not positive but I think his is plastic !. Don''t tell him I said that ! But I suspect its from the museum gift shop...I feel sure Ed will correct me if I am wrong.

LP

louieparker · « **Reply #21 on:** March 13, 2018, 01:49:26 AM »

The finest St. Louis horn that I have ever seen and its in private hands, measures 15 inches long. Its an absolutely wonderful horn.. It still has the original beaded shoulder strap.. I must say when I saw this horn it certainly brought the GREED out in me..As a friend used to say, "I know you are not supposed to covet, but I sure would like to own that horn ! " LP

louieparker · « **Reply #22 on:** March 13, 2018, 05:27:04 AM »

Correction.....
The the horn I spoke of is actually 16 inches in length with a 3 3/8 butt width, LP

iloco · « **Reply #23 on:** March 13, 2018, 04:22:54 PM »

Quote from: louieparker on March 13, 2018, 05:27:04 AM

Correction.....
The the horn I spoke of is actually 16 inches in length with a 3 3/8 butt width, LP

Are there any pictures of this horn you talk about.
There is something about these St Louis horns that I like very much.

Tim Crosby · « **Reply #24 on:** March 13, 2018, 05:26:17 PM »

Quote from: Gun Butcher on March 10, 2018, 12:14:15 PM

Don’t mind at all Tim. I appreciate the atta boy.

Ron

Ron,
I only know Two guys may be able to shed some light on this and your handy.

Thanks, Tim

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Author Topic: BULL BUFFALO HORN (Read 12473 times)

Black Hand