Author Topic: Got barrel? (Read 5150 times)

Flint62Smoothie · « **on:** March 14, 2018, 05:56:12 PM »

A friend just sent me these photos ... 75-cal Hudson Valley fowler, 60” barrel

smokinbuck · « **Reply #1 on:** March 14, 2018, 06:54:09 PM »

That's a great piece. I have a New England fowler with a 72" barrel. Fun to shoot, Stand in one county to load with the butt in the next county.
Mark

Mike Brooks · « **Reply #2 on:** March 14, 2018, 06:54:20 PM »

Seems to be more of a Buck an ear with that buttstock shape.
Here's a 72" barreled example with a handsome gent propping it up.

longcruise · « **Reply #3 on:** March 14, 2018, 07:04:23 PM »

Interesting guns. Never see those here in the West.

The second picture is kinda unique in that it catches the pan flash but the main charge has not yet ignited.

Flint62Smoothie · « **Reply #4 on:** March 14, 2018, 10:31:29 PM »

Quote from: smokinbuck on March 14, 2018, 06:54:09 PM

That's a great piece. I have a New England fowler with a 72" barrel. Fun to shoot, Stand in one county to load with the butt in the next county.

Durn it ... I want it! Wanna sell it?

wattlebuster · « **Reply #5 on:** March 15, 2018, 12:12:20 AM »

Quote from: Mike Brooks on March 14, 2018, 06:54:20 PM

Seems to be more of a Buck an ear with that buttstock shape.
Here's a 72" barreled example with a handsome gent propping it up.

Thats a long barrel for certain. I dont see a handsome gent propping it up although it does resemble a guy in Iowa that built me a gun a while back

Bigmon · « **Reply #6 on:** March 15, 2018, 12:28:56 AM »

some how I had him pictured more like his avatar?
(That is the greatest yet)

smylee grouch · « **Reply #7 on:** March 15, 2018, 12:53:11 AM »

That's a long one for sure. And when your not shooting it you could rent it out to some house painter so he could put his pain t roller in the muzzle for those hard to reach spots.

Justin Urbantas · « **Reply #8 on:** March 15, 2018, 07:14:43 AM »

what is the weight on a gun like that?

Flint62Smoothie · « **Reply #9 on:** March 15, 2018, 03:39:52 PM »

Quote from: Justin Urbantas on March 15, 2018, 07:14:43 AM

what is the weight on a gun like that?

Just over 7-1/2 pounds ... very trim.

Mike Brooks · « **Reply #10 on:** March 15, 2018, 03:51:06 PM »

Quote from: Justin Urbantas on March 15, 2018, 07:14:43 AM

what is the weight on a gun like that?

Mine weighs 11 lbs. 1 3/8" breech and 11 bore. Serious wild fowler.

Dan'l 1946 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 15, 2018, 07:03:58 PM »

Quote from: longcruise on March 14, 2018, 07:04:23 PM

Interesting guns. Never see those here in the West.

The second picture is kinda unique in that it catches the pan flash but the main charge has not yet ignited.

Actually the main charge has lit off. It just takes a couple of minutes for the shot to reach the muzzle. Requires a steady hold....

Flint62Smoothie · « **Reply #12 on:** March 15, 2018, 07:41:49 PM »

Quote from: Dan'l 1946 on March 15, 2018, 07:03:58 PM

Quote from: longcruise on March 14, 2018, 07:04:23 PM
Interesting guns. Never see those here in the West.

The second picture is kinda unique in that it catches the pan flash but the main charge has not yet ignited.
Actually the main charge has lit off. It just takes a couple of minutes for the shot to reach the muzzle. Requires a steady hold....

Here’s another sequence of stills taken from a video. Very interesting that the pan ‘fire’ is orange when the flint sparks ignite the priming charge, then turns white as the main charge ignites, then is just a bigger cloud of white smoke as the charge exits the muzzle.

This is all from iPhone video, so I’m sure the film speed missed some details.

m1garand_man · « **Reply #13 on:** March 16, 2018, 05:00:00 AM »

What weight charges are you guys using in those?

Old Ford2 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 16, 2018, 05:58:45 AM »

Hi,
It must take a lot of powder to get the ball out of that barrel??

With a light charge, I can just hear the ball rattling down the bore.

Best regards!
Fred

Dan'l 1946 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 16, 2018, 06:10:38 AM »

Quote from: Flint62Smoothie on March 15, 2018, 07:41:49 PM

Quote from: Dan'l 1946 on March 15, 2018, 07:03:58 PM
Quote from: longcruise on March 14, 2018, 07:04:23 PM
Interesting guns. Never see those here in the West.

The second picture is kinda unique in that it catches the pan flash but the main charge has not yet ignited.
Actually the main charge has lit off. It just takes a couple of minutes for the shot to reach the muzzle. Requires a steady hold....
Here’s another sequence of stills taken from a video. Very interesting that the pan ‘fire’ is orange when the flint sparks ignite the priming charge, then turns white as the main charge ignites, then is just a bigger cloud of white smoke as the charge exits the muzzle.

This is all from iPhone video, so I’m sure the film speed missed some details.

There is a jet of gas that comes out the vent when the main charge lights off. Could be causing the color change.

Mike Brooks · « **Reply #16 on:** March 16, 2018, 04:55:08 PM »

Quote from: Old Ford2 on March 16, 2018, 05:58:45 AM

Hi,
It must take a lot of powder to get the ball out of that barrel??
With a light charge, I can just hear the ball rattling down the bore.
Best regards!
Fred

They ain't for shootin' ball, they are for shootin' large amounts of shot, 2oz+ loads.

m1garand_man · « **Reply #17 on:** March 17, 2018, 08:11:40 AM »

So yeah, what size of powder charges are typical with these guns?

Mike Brooks · « **Reply #18 on:** March 17, 2018, 03:30:28 PM »

Quote from: m1garand_man on March 17, 2018, 08:11:40 AM

So yeah, what size of powder charges are typical with these guns?

About or around an equal measure to the shot.

Daryl · « **Reply #19 on:** March 17, 2018, 07:36:43 PM »

In jug or normal choked 12 bore, I used 3 dram measure, which is 82gr. That powder measure holds just a tich (1 or 2 pellets) over 1 1/8oz.lead shot. That is a typical load, in my opinion for a 12, for upland birds.

If I was using a cylinder bored 12 bore gun for turkey, I'd be inclined to use something like a 100gr. powder measure which holds 1 3/8oz shot.

A 110gr. measure holds 1 1/2oz shot.

A 120gr. measure holds 1 5/8oz. shot.

Commercial stricken powder measures, adjustable or not, may or likely may not throw these powder charges. You need to weight them. Lee Valley Tools sells a pocket-size electronic scale for $20.00.

Keb · « **Reply #20 on:** March 20, 2018, 06:32:04 PM »

Quote from: Bigmon on March 15, 2018, 12:28:56 AM

some how I had him pictured more like his avatar?

He looks a little like his avatar to to me.

Flint62Smoothie · « **Reply #21 on:** March 20, 2018, 06:46:20 PM »

Quote from: Keb on March 20, 2018, 06:32:04 PM

Quote from: Bigmon on March 15, 2018, 12:28:56 AM
some how I had him pictured more like his avatar?
He looks a little like his avatar to to me.

Ohhhhhh ... that’s good!

Mike Brooks · « **Reply #22 on:** March 20, 2018, 07:02:56 PM »

Who took my hat?

Pukka Bundook · « **Reply #23 on:** March 20, 2018, 09:25:01 PM »

Mike,

You never told us you'd had your head on fire!

n stephenson · « **Reply #24 on:** March 20, 2018, 10:13:47 PM »

Quote from: Flint62Smoothie on March 20, 2018, 06:46:20 PM

Quote from: Keb on March 20, 2018, 06:32:04 PM
Quote from: Bigmon on March 15, 2018, 12:28:56 AM
some how I had him pictured more like his avatar?
He looks a little like his avatar to to me.

Ohhhhhh ... that’s good!

Mike, Did you join the "dollar shave club" or something?

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Author Topic: Got barrel? (Read 5150 times)

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