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Offline looper

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First build from a blank...
« on: March 27, 2018, 10:22:13 AM »
Here's a .62 cal smooth bore I just finished up. This gun is the first one I've built from a blank. I'm very fortunate to have Don Bruton as a close friend and mentor, and having someone like him to guide me has truly been a blessing.

The inspiration for this gun came when I was researching some of my family's history. I thought it would be an interesting exercise to build a gun which could have been carried by one of my forefathers. While a few of my ancestors were people of means, most were simple folk. My 5th Great Grandpa, Joseph Looper was one of the latter. He grew up in Cumberland PA, apprenticed as a carpenter, and shortly after reaching adulthood, set his sights on making a life for himself on the expanding frontier.

I imagined young Grandpa Looper probably carried a simple gun, most likely a smoothbore. Versatile enough for everything from black bear, to squirrels.  The gun could have been made by a skilled gunsmith, but wouldn't have been one of his finer pieces. Maybe it was built as a trade. "Mr. Looper, you build me a shed; I'll build you a gun. Even trade." About a week's worth of labor for each.

It would have been a simple gun, devoid of intricate carving and engraving. A functional piece; a conglomeration of parts collected over the years. A 20 gauge barrel and trigger guard from a French Fusee; an english lock; and a plain sawn piece of red maple. A simple gun. A frontier gun.

On to the build:

I had Greg Christian make me a full round .62 caliber barrel 42" long. The 1-1/16 breech taper for 12" to a 7/8" diameter. I wanted the extra beef in the barrel for some added weight and added safety in adding dovetails for the lugs and front sight. The extra weight also comes in handy when shooting 350 grain round balls. The lugs and front sight were dovetailed in. The tang is held in by a long wood screw. The front sight I made from a 1968 half dollar. I'll probably redo it, as that year silver dollar isn't all silver. For a touch hole insert, I made one out of a grade 8 1/4-28 bolt.

The stock I carved from a full blank of plain sawn red maple from Dunlap. I inletted the barrel and drilled the ramrod hole myself, under Don's watchful eye. The only carving is slight "beavertail" around the tang. I added 1/4" offset and 3-3/4" drop. Pull is 14-1/4".

For a lock, I chose an English Queen Anne from L&R. It's a little smaller than Chamber's English lock, and a little less inexpensive. It sparks well and was easy to tune. It's held on with a 10-32 bolt at the breech and a 8-32 bolt at the front. I had to use a smaller bolt at the front due to a pretty thin web between the barrel and the ramrod hole.

The trigger guard is a cast french guard. It had a small casting flaw, which didn't bother me in the least. After pinning the guard on, I wasn't satisfied with it. I ended up taking off the pins, plugging the mortices and pin holes, and screwing the guard on. It now fits a little better to my liking, and, if the stock shrinks, I'll be able to cinch it up some.

The trigger I modified from a cast piece and decided not to use a trigger plate. The trigger pivots on a pin through the stock. The trigger pull, if I do say so myself, is pretty danged good. Clean, crisp, with very little slack. It's light, but not too light, if you know what I mean.

The buttplate and ramrod thimbles I formed from 16 ga sheet steel. The buttplate is attached with hobnails. I left some of the "pecker tracks" from the forming stage. On the thimbles, I filed a couple of "beauty rings". I chose to forgo an entry thimble and nose cap.

After scraping, sanding and whiskering, I used aqua fortis till I got the color I wanted, and applied beeswax for a finish. It's a weatherproof, easy to repair finish.

For the metal finish, I sanded down with 220 and applied some liquid cold blue. I then wiped it back with some steel wool to get a slight patina. I'm still may fool around with it some more.

The ramrod is hickory. I made a sheet metal tip for it. It's 3" long, soldered along the seam and pinned in place. The end is tapped 8-32 for jags and pullers. On the other end, I just flared the hickory.

It weighs 7 lbs 6 oz, with a 14-1/4" pull. I'll be adding some minor engraving in the near future, but need a little more practice on round surfaces before I make the full commitment.

I did run into a few challenges, but nothing catastrophic. Part of the fun of this project was fixing some minor errors. Before I get comments on how terrible these pics are, I am aware. I'll do better on the next gun.






Offline looper

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Re: First build from a blank...
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Offline smylee grouch

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Re: First build from a blank...
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2018, 01:36:11 PM »
From where I sit it looks like you did a nice first job.

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Re: First build from a blank...
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2018, 04:11:56 PM »
That should serve you well. I like it. I also like the fact you have yer little buddies keeping you company in your work shop.

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Re: First build from a blank...
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2018, 04:18:44 PM »
Looks very much like an original! Good Job!
Love those puppies.
Gus :)

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Re: First build from a blank...
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2018, 04:25:42 PM »
I'd have left off that buttplate.
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Re: First build from a blank...
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2018, 04:32:36 PM »
Nice! Great first effort from a plank. I like it, and I'll bet Great Grandpa Looper would too.

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Re: First build from a blank...
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2018, 04:36:24 PM »
I like your rifle a lot. I like the simplicity of it and the inspiration for building it. Well done, you are fortunate to have such an experienced mentor help guide you.
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Re: First build from a blank...
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2018, 06:34:47 PM »
Good job! Better than my first plank build :-[  It is good to go simple and make sure the mechanics and architecture are right on your first.
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Re: First build from a blank...
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2018, 06:47:08 PM »
Love your two helpers.

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Re: First build from a blank...
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2018, 06:51:50 PM »
Looks like you did a great job with the architecture, the most difficult part for most folks.  Looks good, great first effort.

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Re: First build from a blank...
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2018, 10:07:12 PM »
Thanks for the comments.

Mike, I did consider not putting on a buttplate at all, but then I thought why not? It was a good exercise for me. It's not inconceivable that a buttplate might have been added after the gun left the maker's shop. If my 6th Great Grandpa was anything like my Father and Grandfather, he probably looked at the gun and thought "Why the heck didn't he put a buttplate on? I'll fix that right now. Hand me that tin plate."

Yep, my little buddies are always around. That's only two of them. The Jack Russell (Taku) has been with me for 11 years.

The little brown one is one of 3 Chihuahua/feist mixes that someone dumped nearby. Petey, Buster, and Daisy.

And then there's Ruby. She's another one that showed up. She's my country dog.

They're all usually preoccupied with chasing rats, digging holes, barking at deer and squirrels. The other night, Ruby treed a momma bear and her 3 near grown cubs. They do have to check in on me periodically to make sure I'm still alive and working.

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Re: First build from a blank...
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2018, 10:45:34 PM »
I like it,a nice job indeed.

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Re: First build from a blank...
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2018, 05:13:43 AM »
That's a danged good job on your first gun, Cheney.  You got a lot to be proud of there.  My first one wouldn't have made a good canoe paddle!

That buttplate looks good and honest and very utilitarian.  My kind of stuff.   Kinda makes me want to cry......I like it so much... :'(

Great job!  Looking forward to seeing what your over abundance of talent comes up with for #2.

Very inspiring.   ;D

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« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2018, 04:53:46 PM »
Looper, I like your gun . It is a good representation of a working man`s gun. Nice Job!!! I can tell that your little "helpers" are happy and healthy . I too have some little Fiests.  The only thing that bothers me about your post is, that your workbench is entirely too neat and organized , I would have to wonder who broke into my shop and straightened it up ::).  With all them nice tools , I know you have another build up your sleeve. Care to elaborate?  Keep going!!   Nate

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Re: First build from a blank...
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2018, 08:41:52 PM »
My workbench is not normally that organized. I build longbows and primitive type furniture pieces, and was using the same big bench for all of it. It was chaotic to say the least. My shop is big enough that I decided to have some dedicated work stations. This is my gunmaking corner. I still have some drawers and boxes to make for it, but having everything right there makes for a much more efficient space than I had before. And, I'm not constantly losing stuff.

As far as my next builds, I'm about to start on a squirrel gun. I'll be using a Rice .40 in the Southern Classic profile. It'll be pretty plain, early style gun with just a few basic carvings, wood patch box, no entry thimble or nose cap, single trigger.
Kind of like this one: http://contemporarymakers.blogspot.com/2008/09/jack-hubbard.html Not an exact copy, but very similar. I stumbled across that gun on that blog and thought "That's exactly what I've been picturing and sketching out." Mine won't be aged to that extent, though. I'll let my own use add the character to it.

I'm still waffling on which lock to use.  Maybe an early Ketland, maybe even Chamber's Dale Johnson. That barrel is only 15/16" at the breech, so I'd like to keep the lock area pretty trim.

After that, I'll build a smooth rifle. I have a 42" oct/round .54 smoothbore barrel. I'll use a Chamber's Round Faced English lock on it with brass mounts. It'll have an entry thimble, a nose cap, and some more intricate carvings. I think it'll be my version of a woods runner type gun. I still haven't decided exactly which mounts I'll use, but I'll know it when I see it.


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