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Offline Daryl

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Re: What’s your next Smoothbore ?
« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2018, 01:28:22 AM »
This one, this is it, a ROER, simple, likely made in South Africa - this one is a 4 bore smooth,
looking very much like the Whal 11 bore I posted above. Perfect for ducks geese and elephants.



Some were rifled, some not.


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Offline Justin Urbantas

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Re: What’s your next Smoothbore ?
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2018, 07:55:02 AM »
This one, this is it, a ROER, simple, likely made in South Africa - this one is a 4 bore smooth,
looking very much like the Whal 11 bore I posted above. Perfect for ducks geese and elephants.



Some were rifled, some not.


Why build a 4 bore when you can build a 2 bore rifled?
http://www.thegunworks.com/custprodgun.cfm?ProductID=515&do=detail&Cat2Option=yes


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Re: What’s your next Smoothbore ?
« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2018, 03:08:56 PM »
Just started this week on a 10 ga, Spanish Escopeta, 34 inch barrel with a scratch built Miquelet lock.
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Re: What’s your next Smoothbore ?
« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2018, 07:15:07 PM »
I have a brass  16" 4 bore blunderbuss barrel I'm currently hand in letting in a piece of walnut. Going to be a American composite blunderbuss that could have been found in a Massachusettes privateer early in the war. Hey it's a smoothbore!
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Re: What’s your next Smoothbore ?
« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2018, 12:13:11 AM »
Should be fun, Greg.
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Re: What’s your next Smoothbore ?
« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2018, 04:49:16 AM »
 Justin Urbantis, that is a wonderful long gun you have pictured. would you provide a little info, please?
 What length barrel, and size across the flats? It doesn't look like it's very hard to carry.
  Thank you, Woodbutcher

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Re: What’s your next Smoothbore ?
« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2018, 06:42:56 AM »
Justin Urbantis, that is a wonderful long gun you have pictured. would you provide a little info, please?
 What length barrel, and size across the flats? It doesn't look like it's very hard to carry.
  Thank you, Woodbutcher
Here is where I found it.
http://www.sitemason.com/page/gBGD96

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Re: What’s your next Smoothbore ?
« Reply #32 on: April 07, 2018, 07:53:41 AM »
That's nice!


and COOL!



patterning- red - this gun 15 bore - note the load.
yes- it is confusing


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Re: What’s your next Smoothbore ?
« Reply #33 on: April 07, 2018, 08:02:51 AM »
The choked 12 bore put 8 pellets LESS on the page than the 15 bore, while exceeding the 15 bore's load by a 1/4oz. of #6's + 13gr. more powder.
That's interesting.

If I remember correctly, Taylor's 15 bore Manton shot 1oz best as well, but might have been 1 1/8oz. with 2 1/2 drams powder.

Nice gun, Justin, thanks for posting it's whereabouts.
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Re: What’s your next Smoothbore ?
« Reply #34 on: April 07, 2018, 08:16:46 AM »
I'm thinking of a Dunlap 12 ga. English Fowler.
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Re: What’s your next Smoothbore ?
« Reply #35 on: April 07, 2018, 05:52:19 PM »
The choked 12 bore put 8 pellets LESS on the page than the 15 bore, while exceeding the 15 bore's load by a 1/4oz. of #6's + 13gr. more powder.
That's interesting.

If I remember correctly, Taylor's 15 bore Manton shot 1oz best as well, but might have been 1 1/8oz. with 2 1/2 drams powder.

Nice gun, Justin, thanks for posting it's whereabouts.
No problem. It's a good site to see some nice high end originals.
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Re: What’s your next Smoothbore ?
« Reply #36 on: April 07, 2018, 07:11:51 PM »
I don't have a smoothbore and am unlikely to make one in the near future as I don't really have a use for one. However, for some reason I really like the idea of making a type G, just to have one, and I'd like to make a musket or big-bored fowling piece just for the heck of it. Probably would have started on one before this, but there aren't any commercial locks of suitable size.
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Re: What’s your next Smoothbore ?
« Reply #37 on: April 07, 2018, 11:03:51 PM »
I don't have a smoothbore and am unlikely to make one in the near future as I don't really have a use for one. However, for some reason I really like the idea of making a type G, just to have one, and I'd like to make a musket or big-bored fowling piece just for the heck of it. Probably would have started on one before this, but there aren't any commercial locks of suitable size.

Shooting a Smooth Bore is a ton of fun....

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Re: What’s your next Smoothbore ?
« Reply #38 on: April 08, 2018, 05:14:30 AM »



38" Colerain Turkey barrel in the style of Beck.

Hoping to have it done in the next couple weeks.



After that, a PA or English Fowler is on the list for wing shooting...but have a couple rifles and a smoothbore 54cal pistol to build.

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Re: What’s your next Smoothbore ?
« Reply #39 on: April 08, 2018, 11:43:30 PM »
Your bench is tidy compared to mine.

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Re: What’s your next Smoothbore ?
« Reply #40 on: April 09, 2018, 02:08:35 AM »
 Mr Urbantas, now I must complain. You show something so very nice and it's how old? Now what am I to do?
 Where does one go to get a barrel so light that it can make a 5 1/2 lb long gun? Maybe in .54 caliper.
 I'm crushed! Woodbutcher

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Re: What’s your next Smoothbore ?
« Reply #41 on: April 09, 2018, 10:37:17 PM »
I have been thinking a 28ga with 33 to 36 inch barrel and a little shorter LOP in hopes of getting the girls and grandsons started one day. Have not decided on the stock style yet.

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Re: What’s your next Smoothbore ?
« Reply #42 on: April 10, 2018, 07:23:48 AM »
Mr Urbantas, now I must complain. You show something so very nice and it's how old? Now what am I to do?
 Where does one go to get a barrel so light that it can make a 5 1/2 lb long gun? Maybe in .54 caliper.
 I'm crushed! Woodbutcher
Sorry to disappoint you. I think maybe you could get a lightweight fowler barel from FCI or Ed Rayl maybe.  I think it could be done

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Re: What’s your next Smoothbore ?
« Reply #43 on: April 11, 2018, 04:52:06 AM »
 Justin, thank you. Sometimes disappointment can lead to progress. Look at this way, you've shown it can be done.
 I will, look again, at different suppliers for a lightweight smoothbore barrel. It seems that the profile is the same for different bores, so larger bores are lighter. I ain't found a 50 cal. or 54 cal. thin wall smooth barrel yet.
 What does a halfstock weigh, depending on the wood used? That gives an idea of the barrel weight desired.
 I'm very grateful for the info that you've shared. It is an inspiring piece that you have.
 I'm still crushed! Woodbutcher

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Re: What’s your next Smoothbore ?
« Reply #44 on: April 13, 2018, 04:17:07 PM »
It'll be a few guns down the line and probably a couple years off, but an Armstrong fowler is on my list.  All I have so far are a triggergaurd (that I'll need to file and adapt) and the wood.  Planning on the 44" turkey choke barrel for it.  With sights and that barrel it should be a great gobbler whomper!
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Re: What’s your next Smoothbore ?
« Reply #45 on: April 23, 2018, 01:06:12 AM »
This Lehigh .58 smoothy is the my favorite. If I could only have one flintlock, this would be the one I keep.





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Re: What’s your next Smoothbore ?
« Reply #46 on: April 23, 2018, 02:44:27 AM »
A Smooth rifle, buy the looks of that rear sight! There were MANY ordered from Eastern Makers, by stores in "The West", St. Louis, SanFrancisco, etc.

I tried a flat topped,  V notch rear sight on my flinter - too it off and learned how to hold it.
I actually did not like seeing the WHOLE barrel - for some sodded reason - no comprondo.
I got my zeros (holds) - close range out to 50 yards and for 110 yards - done.
 
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Re: What’s your next Smoothbore ?
« Reply #47 on: April 25, 2018, 07:04:27 AM »
My list of smoothbores grows. I want;
1763/66 Charleville
Brown Bess
M1795 Musket
American pattern fowler
I do plan on buying an M1842 musket sometime in the near future.

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Re: What’s your next Smoothbore ?
« Reply #48 on: May 04, 2018, 05:44:46 AM »



The business end...62 cal Tulle

Offline Daryl

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Re: What’s your next Smoothbore ?
« Reply #49 on: May 04, 2018, 08:18:15 AM »
This gun is just about perfect for a bird gun. I would like to get a .54 calibre rifle barrel
for it. I suspect Bobby Hoyt might be able to accomplish this for me. Anyone know if he
copies barrel profiles?




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