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Offline Chuck Burrows

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Info on original English(?) cap lock.......
« on: May 20, 2009, 10:00:22 AM »
I'm trying to find some info on an original caplock marked Kingsland & Co., Warranted.
When in business especially????

Thanks for any help.......so far my references have come up nil.......
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Offline WElliott

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Re: Info on original English(?) cap lock.......
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2009, 06:17:21 PM »
Chuck, I'm on the same quest.  I have a Southern rifle with a flintlock marked  "R. Kingsland & Co., Warranted". and I and the previous owner have looked for information on this lock for years.  Hopefully, someone can help shed light on this lock maker.
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Re: Info on original English(?) cap lock.......
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2009, 06:29:51 PM »
Its probably an importer or hardware store name, not the actual maker.
The locks came over in bulk from various places. Birmingham for example, they were stamped either by the maker with the specified markings or by the person that bought them for resale.
So stop looking only for a maker and start looking for a supplier of parts, hardware store or importer.
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Offline rsells

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Re: Info on original English(?) cap lock.......
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2009, 07:02:09 PM »
I have a late half stock target rifle with a lock marked Kingsland Warranted and tried to run the traps on the maker and didn't get far.  I did see one of these locks on one of the original Hawken rifles in the Cody museum.  I know it was used around 1860, but do not have any additional information.
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Offline WElliott

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Re: Info on original English(?) cap lock.......
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2009, 10:59:14 PM »
You are right, it is most likely the importer/distributor's name. Don't know why I said "maker", I know better!
Wayne
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Re: Info on original English(?) cap lock.......
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2009, 10:00:22 PM »

Info from The Internet Gun Club    internetgunclub.com


Historical Data for Richards, Kingsland & C0
                       
Name Richards, Kingsland & Co.
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City/Town New York
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State/Region/Province New York 
Country  USA 
Trade  Gunmakers 
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Dates  1837 
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Offline WElliott

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Re: Info on original English(?) cap lock.......
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2009, 12:15:01 AM »
Thank you, Millsman.  That is most helpful.
Wayne
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Re: Info on original English(?) cap lock.......
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2009, 03:36:59 AM »
Anybody have that 5 volume set on NY gunmakers?  Would be interesting to know if there's anything more in there.

Sean

Offline Steve Collward

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Re: Info on original English(?) cap lock.......
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2009, 03:55:28 AM »
I checked out the New York State Firearms Trade books but found no listings for Kingsland.
Frank Sellers "American Gunsmiths" lists "Kingsland, R. & Co., unlocated. Lockmaker, flintlocks".
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