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mark brier
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Double rifle
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May 22, 2018, 01:25:25 AM »
Gentleman, I wanted to share pictures of barrel turning and more importantly a fix for people that do not have a taper attachment for their lathe. Turning a taper by offsetting the tail stock will not allow one to use the follower rest. I was having a problem with vibration and chatter in the middle six inches of the barrel. A solution I came up with that works great was to drill and tap the follower rest fingers and using shoulder bolts that fit the inner race of some small bearings I installed the bearings on the finders and put springs behind the fingers to allow them to push inwards while going up the taper of the barrel. Works great.
Mark Brier
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jerrywh
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May 22, 2018, 02:51:53 AM »
That is a pretty good looking setup. I have another method for very thin barrels. Doesn't this setup effect the depth of your cut? Just asking. Vibration is a big factor in turning barrels especially thin ones.
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mark brier
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Re: Double rifle
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May 22, 2018, 03:40:25 AM »
I did not have that problem. The springs are not that strong, just enough pressure to make the bearings turn. But enough contact to get rid of vibration.
Mark Brier
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Randall Steffy
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May 22, 2018, 03:41:48 AM »
Jerry,
If you are willing to share your trick method of turning a thin barrel such that chatter is minimized, I for one would be most grateful to learn. I suspect others have their ear turned your way as well. Thanks!
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Goo
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May 22, 2018, 02:39:43 PM »
Would you post the supplier and part numbers for the bearings? it looks like the adjusting screws are touching the fingers, I was thinking to try this with some heavier springs between the adjusting screws and bearing fingers.
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Hudnut
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May 22, 2018, 02:56:37 PM »
A friend who makes barrels uses a follow rest with pneumatic fingers. Maintains damping pressure, but adjusts automatically for changing barrel diameter.
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jerrywh
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May 22, 2018, 06:40:54 PM »
I fill the barrels with cerrosafe and then it is like turning a solid bar but there is still some vibration problem. any long thin bar presents a problem. I will probably never do anymore barrels but if I did I would make a follower rest like the one shown in this post. I have seen other similar setups before without the rollers. Notice the very fine turnings in Mark's last photo. No matter what you do the cut must be a very fine cut. Mark knows what he's doing that's for sure.
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Scota4570
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May 22, 2018, 07:01:19 PM »
I use the steady rest in the middle of the barrel. For really long barrels it might need to be moved. It is a pain to have to move the steady for saddle travel but it works, I don't have a follower anyway. I had thought of making a dampened articulated follower but never got around to it. I've never used my taper attachment for this. Always between offset centers with a lathe dog.
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Craig Wilcox
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May 22, 2018, 07:47:19 PM »
That is so great! Really appreciate you sharing.
I had a "gunsmith" vice for quite a while. It turned replacement screws for almost anything, but got rid of it after trying to taper a few barrels.
Again- really appreciate you bring your idea to us. Good luck on that double!
Craigo
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Brinch
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June 01, 2018, 03:49:14 PM »
Great Work! It looks very frightening!
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