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Building the Woodbury Whitson
« on: June 30, 2018, 05:10:06 AM »
Woodbury Whitson Rifle by Jin Kibler, Heinz Ahlers, Ian Pratt, and Frank House
Text by H Ahlers
Photos by D Wright
 
 The Woodbury Whitson Rifle is a result of a collaboration between Jim Kibler, Heinz Ahlers, Ian Pratt and Frank House.  Jim Kibler donated one of his fine Iron Mounted Southern rifle kits to the CLA for this years auction. Heinz handled the assembly of the kit and fabricated the additional metal parts. Ian Pratt was the design consultant, historian, and trigger smith.  Frank House handled the finishing work including the final styling on the rifle. 

This rifle went start to finish photography in just over 90 days. This team really pulled together to hustle this rifle out. 

First a few words about the kit.  From the packing box it comes in, to the precision fit of the inlets ,everything about this rifle is first class.  It is simple and fun to put together and has a fine set of instructions. The kit uses a Rice “Golden Age” swamped barrel, a Chambers Ketland lock, and a Kibler designed double set double pull trigger. That is a recipe for a fine shooter.  The Kibler iron mounted rifle is loosely based on a Whitson iron mounted rifle.


The Kibler kit is based on the Whitson style of the North Carolina Appalachian School.  The Whitson family of gunsmiths worked in Buncombe County, North Carolina from the end  of the Eighteenth Century well into the percussion period.  William Whitson was born around 1764, his son, George Whitson in 1785, and Joseph Whitson Jr. was born in 1825. They made iron mounted rifles of the Appalachian school with some interesting touches.  In 1800 Buncombe County included what would later become Henderson and Haywood Counties. So the Whitsons, Robert Hughes and the early Gillespies would have been working realitively close to each other.  Their potential customers were North Carolina hunters, including a large Cherokee population, travelers headed down the French Broad River and over to the Cumberland River country, and traders and merchants going in all directions from Morristown, which would become Asheville.

Whitson rifles sometimes have patch boxes, generally variations on the banana style box,
and later rifles have the extended tang.  Ian Pratt finds the Whitson’s typically used a characteristic filing technique on their double set triggers and set screws.

The Woodbury Whitson rifle features a nose cap, toe plate and patch box consistent with the style George Whitson may have used. We have also used a molding on the cheek piece similar to Joseph Whitson’s work.  Ian Pratt provided the appropriate style set screw for the triggers and guided the trigger shaping.  We shaped the thimbles octagon giving another Joseph Whitson touch.

This Kibler kit rifle had extremely good architecture right out of the box. However the addition of some molding, a box, a toe plate, a nose cap and Frank House’s work with the furniture scraper really brought the rifle into the Woodbury School.  Frank’s finish work on this rifle is masterful. 

This is a classic Appalachian rifle with a 46 inch Rice 40 caliber swamped barrel.  The maple stock is nicely striped. It is very light and handy for such a long barreled piece. And how often do you find a gun with quite this list of builders?

I will add some posts with build photos and a link to the CLA Auction page with the finished shots
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Re: Building the Woodbury Whitson
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2018, 05:16:36 AM »
The box and content




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Re: Building the Woodbury Whitson
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2018, 05:19:46 AM »
Those who know me know this is not my inletting style :-)  You can also see Ian's trigger mods





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Re: Building the Woodbury Whitson
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2018, 05:21:45 AM »
Molding and Box





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Re: Building the Woodbury Whitson
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2018, 05:26:03 AM »
Nose cap




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Re: Building the Woodbury Whitson
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2018, 05:34:23 AM »
It went off to Woodbury and Frank House's shop and the magic happens







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Re: Building the Woodbury Whitson
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2018, 07:41:07 AM »
Phenomenal piece of work!
I'd rather die standing, than live on my knees...

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Re: Building the Woodbury Whitson
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2018, 03:37:45 PM »
What a way to start my day...this post just made my whole Saturday better!  Someone at the auction is going to be a very happy camper with this one. Great work guys!

Greg
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Re: Building the Woodbury Whitson
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2018, 04:51:39 PM »
 :o :o.... Fine rifle right out the  box,..... extras and finish make her even finer,... Joe Whitson would have been proud,.....!!!

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Re: Building the Woodbury Whitson
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2018, 06:45:05 PM »
It is a great rifle out of the box. I do not usually care for “Kit Rifles” because they don’t have any soul.  However Jim Kibler has really put himself into these rifles in every little detail and they do carry that Kibler spirit with them.  I grin whenever I look at that trigger inlet. That picture is of fit before I did anything. This was fun to build, although working with Ian and Frank requires a thick skin and a sense of humor.   
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Re: Building the Woodbury Whitson
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2018, 04:39:19 AM »
Great job Heinz, Frank, and Ian on the Kibler Whitson rifle !  It looks great! I hope to see it at the CLA auction in August!
 I can’t wait to see the Kibler Colonial 50 caliber rifle  kit I ordered last Dec..

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Re: Building the Woodbury Whitson
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2018, 06:10:34 AM »
I am at the KRA show and there is an original here and may be the rifle that Jim based his kit on. If it is the rifle I can say that Jim did a great job of copying the architecture, butt plate and trigger guard. I also think the crew building this project for the CLA has done a great job.
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Re: Building the Woodbury Whitson
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2018, 10:10:15 PM »
 ;) ;)... Jim,... M. Briggs showed me photos of the "J. Whitson for T.C. Carson" rifle at your show back in January,... I believe this is the NC rifle that he based his design on,.... he got it right,... !!!

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Re: Building the Woodbury Whitson
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2018, 01:59:44 AM »
CC Fiddler I do believe it is that rifle. I always wondered why Jim did not include a nose cap with his kit now I know the original does not have one either.
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Re: Building the Woodbury Whitson
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2018, 08:18:00 PM »
That box is worth more than many of the rifles I have made.
Where it says "INSTRUCTIONS ENCLOSED" I would add
When ALL ELSE fails,open and read them ;D.

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Re: Building the Woodbury Whitson
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2018, 08:58:26 PM »
That box is worth more than many of the rifles I have made.
Where it says "INSTRUCTIONS ENCLOSED" I would add
When ALL ELSE fails,open and read them ;D.

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Re: Building the Woodbury Whitson
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2018, 11:26:51 PM »

Bob Roller,  I read the instructions, they were in the King's English and I followed them. Well, most of them anyhow









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Re: Building the Woodbury Whitson
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2018, 11:53:36 PM »
It IS a fine looking rifle even if the instructions were not read.

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Re: Building the Woodbury Whitson
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2018, 05:46:46 AM »
There are some conversations going on about various kits on ALR. I thought I would  point out something about the Kibler kit we used on the Woodbury Whitson.
Notice the bench top in these photos







No. Wood chips and shavings.

This is what a trigger inlet usually leaves on the bench





I did the Kibler inlet with a rubber mallet and about four licks with a 1/4 inch chisel so I would feel part of the process. These are really nice kits
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Re: Building the Woodbury Whitson
« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2018, 02:33:03 PM »
I just realized that I never gave David Wright credit for the photographs.  The photos of the finished rifle that is.  You can see the difference in my "in progress" photos and David's work.  Just about 3 weeks and all of the auction stuff will be up on the block.  I think I will post some details in Over the Back Fence as soon as I walk the dog
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Re: Building the Woodbury Whitson
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2018, 10:21:00 PM »
No lack of talent in that crew, and the result is great as would be expected.  Those kits already go way past anything that's ever been available, and that's probably the most impressive team ever assembled to put together any kit.  Plus DW photography never hurts.

I have put building one of Jim's kits on my bucket list, just so I'll have built one rifle with perfect inletting :)