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Offline Mike Lyons

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Madder Lake Root
« on: September 16, 2018, 02:45:10 AM »
This is 3 coats of waterlox, two coats of true oil and 5 coats of true oil with madder root mixed in.   Any thoughts?  Should I add more coats of madder root?  It’s getting darker red each time I run a coat on.












Offline mark esterly

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Re: Madder Lake Root
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2018, 02:53:21 AM »
i like it just the way it is.  a real beaut.
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Re: Madder Lake Root
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2018, 02:55:32 AM »
You’re there. Looking good.
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Re: Madder Lake Root
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2018, 04:40:30 AM »
9-15-18

Afghanvet,

Which specific "Waterlox product" did you use?

Best Regards,

Robert T Adams

Offline Mike Lyons

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Re: Madder Lake Root
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2018, 04:46:13 AM »
I use the marine sealer on about everything.  My wife bought a container of it for something long ago and never used it, so I use it.  I also mix 3rds bees wax, boiled linseed oil and turpentine for a top coat on everything.  I haves put that on here yet, but I probably will. 

Offline Craig Wilcox

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Re: Madder Lake Root
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2018, 08:11:31 AM »
Brother, your new rifle looks grand.  I wouldn't put any more madder root stuff on it.  Let it set up a bit, then a good rub down with your favorite wax.
Quite envious of that, as you have done a splendid job on the whole thing.   Now, put all the parts-pieces back on, and give us some good close ups of it.
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Re: Madder Lake Root
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2018, 06:27:28 PM »
Looks good man! Did you use aqua fortis before the waterlox and madder?

Offline Mike Lyons

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Re: Madder Lake Root
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2018, 06:41:16 PM »
Looks good man! Did you use aqua fortis before the waterlox and madder?

Yes I did.  I believe 3 coats of aquafortis.  My heat gun blew on round 2. The aqua fortis turned it a beautiful red color that I liked.  After I rubbed the waterlox in,  it turned honey brown.  I wasn’t going to use the madder lake but I wanted the Lehigh reddish color and not honey brown.   It was a lot easier to use than I expected. I mixed it in a marble mortar and pestal bowl.  I just went in circles until my arm got tired. I wish I would have taped my silver inlets.  It’s pretty tedious scrubbing the varnish off of them.  These pictures are right after the aquafortis.  They lightened up when I put the waterlox on.






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Re: Madder Lake Root
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2018, 06:59:14 PM »
9-16-18

Afghanvet,

Thanks for the reply.

To be more specific; did you use Waterlox product number (TB3809) Waterlox Marine Sealer or (TB5284) Waterlox Sealer/Finish?

Best Regards,

Robert T Adams

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Re: Madder Lake Root
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2018, 07:08:31 PM »
9-16-18

Afghanvet,

Thanks for the reply.

To be more specific; did you use Waterlox product number (TB3809) Waterlox Marine Sealer or (TB5284) Waterlox Sealer/Finish?

Best Regards,

Robert T Adams



That stuff.  FWIW,  it has turned both guns I’ve built to honey brown applying it after aquafortis. 

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Re: Madder Lake Root
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2018, 07:38:04 PM »
 what kind of silver is the star on cheek

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Re: Madder Lake Root
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2018, 07:39:03 PM »
9-16-18

Afghanvet,

Thanks for your swift reply.

I noted from the photograph of the Waterlox can label that the product is "Waterlox Marine --  Marine Sealer, medium sheen -- resists moisture".

Best Regards,

Robert T Adams

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Re: Madder Lake Root
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2018, 07:42:20 PM »
Be careful resting guns on that Road King seat! ;)
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Re: Madder Lake Root
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2018, 07:46:49 PM »
Looking VERY good!! I like the reddish color for a Lehigh type rifle. This is just a question , I was wondering if you are planning to engrave the box and inlays? If so , you might want to hold off on any more finish work until you engrave it. I always do my engraving before finish , if it is a part that can`t be removed , and engraved off the rifle. Looks great so far!  Nate

Offline Mike Lyons

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Re: Madder Lake Root
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2018, 07:57:55 PM »
Yip,  that star is fake GS silver.  The wrist thing is a 1943 quarter pounded flat and the lady came with the kit. It’s gs too.  Nate,  I do plan to engrave everything.  I bought the Lindsey sharpening template and I’m practicing on sheet.  I’m making an Allentown horn and bag to go with the rifle and I’ll keep practicing engraving until I feel somewhat comfortable.  I’m brand new at engraving, so thanks for the advice.   Gus, I had to grab my first rifle to measure the location of the sights.   

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Re: Madder Lake Root
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2018, 09:10:48 PM »
 Did you wet sand the waterlox in, or just apply and buff?

Offline Mike Lyons

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Re: Madder Lake Root
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2018, 09:36:06 PM »
I just smear it on all the wood.  It soaks it up like a vacuum.  I never get much of a finish with it.  That’s where the bees wax concoction comes in.  The true oil immediately put a finish on this gun.

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Re: Madder Lake Root
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2018, 10:30:20 PM »
She looks good. keep on keeping on my man. Enough red, although reds tend to fade in time.

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Re: Madder Lake Root
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2018, 01:50:13 AM »
 thats a pretty rifle there, looks like a Lehigh from here, love the color!!!!

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Re: Madder Lake Root
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2018, 09:47:35 PM »
Thanks for all the advice and compliments.   I really appreciate it. 

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Re: Madder Lake Root
« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2018, 01:02:36 AM »
Nice work. That's turned out to be a good looking rifle.
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