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Offline Huntschool

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Nose cap/Nose piece ??????
« on: October 29, 2018, 02:16:39 AM »
Has anyone seen an original American long rifle from the 1750's to the very early 1800's with a different type of wood for a nose cap/nose piece ?  Or, has anyone built one that way ?  Is there HC here ???????

This, of course excludes half stock English sporting rifles. 

inquiring minds want to know........

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Re: Nose cap/Nose piece ??????
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2018, 03:21:54 AM »
There is a picture of a 2 barrel keyed English-styled rifle with short barrel & 1/2 stock .75  cal. made by Krider in Piladelphia, I think. Page 231  of Firearms of the American West, 1803 - 1865.
The forend 'cap' appears to be silver or perhaps pewter.  Engraved on a cartouche n the cheep piece with "Presented to W.H.Owen/by/Major M. Chevallie/April 9th 1852"
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Re: Nose cap/Nose piece ??????
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2018, 03:34:05 AM »
Does horn count, I have a Jaeger with a horn nose cap and sliding wood patchbox with a horn finial as a contrast to the wood.

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Re: Nose cap/Nose piece ??????
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2018, 03:21:54 PM »
Has anyone seen an original American long rifle from the 1750's to the very early 1800's with a different type of wood for a nose cap/nose piece ?  Or, has anyone built one that way ?  Is there HC here ???????

This, of course excludes half stock English sporting rifles. 

inquiring minds want to know........

Thanks
Nope, never saw an Colonial/American rifle with a different type of wood for a nose cap. I don't even recall horn.
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Offline Pukka Bundook

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Re: Nose cap/Nose piece ??????
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2018, 05:49:26 PM »
Hunt,

I do not think you will find a gun of this period with a contrasting wood nosecap.  Horn/metal if European, but not wood.
Idea of a nosecap is to add something a little less liable to split than the wood, so adding wood to wood would be pointless.

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Re: Nose cap/Nose piece ??????
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2018, 05:58:22 PM »
There were rumors about a number of original features of the 1761 Schreit rifle including the guard and nose cap but I have not kept a record of those discussions. I seem to recall thoughts that it had a wooden guard and horn nosecap. Agree that contrasting wood has not been a known feature of longrifles here in America.
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Re: Nose cap/Nose piece ??????
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2018, 07:48:44 PM »
I've used ebony on both full stocked Jaegers, and half stocked English sporting rifles, because it looks like horn, sorta.  But not on a longrifle.
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Re: Nose cap/Nose piece ??????
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2018, 08:03:00 PM »
Thanks all...
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