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Offline runastav

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Building a Gillespie Rifle cal 50
« on: November 02, 2018, 02:57:04 PM »
Hi All! I will try to build a Gillespie Rifle .  Barrel 45" long slight swamped cal 50 from Charles Burton and rifled on my Iowa rifling bench. Stock from Blackthorn, L&R Durs Egg Lock, set trigger from davis? BC and TG from Dennis Glazener and his Nice book :)
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Offline Terry Reynolds

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Re: Building a Gillespie Rifle cal 50
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2018, 03:20:29 PM »
Looking forward to watching this build. Runar thanks and keep us posted.

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Re: Building a Gillespie Rifle cal 50
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2018, 06:20:24 PM »
I second that, looking forward to this build. I always enjoy your builds and always learn a lot about how to improvise. This will be good, no doubt.
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Re: Building a Gillespie Rifle cal 50
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2018, 06:39:01 PM »
Nice parts. I've got a couple of those Durr's Egg locks - work well for me. One needed the frizzen re-hardened and tempered - no it's an incredible sparker.
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Offline Dennis Glazener

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Re: Building a Gillespie Rifle cal 50
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2018, 08:43:17 PM »
The very first Gillespie that I built I used a Durs Egg lock. Rounded the tail to make it look more like later Goulcher locks but it probably would have looked better if I had left it as it came. That was a good lock far better than the other L & R locks that I have used since then. Made the stock out of Black Maple, which I had never hear of until Fred Miller sold me that piece. Good hard piece of Maple.
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Re: Building a Gillespie Rifle cal 50
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2018, 11:05:14 PM »
runastav,
What are you going to use for stock wood? I have not heard of Blackthorn except for use in make Swiss black powder?
Thanks!
Looking forward to the progress pictures and story!  ;D

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Re: Building a Gillespie Rifle cal 50
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2018, 11:14:07 PM »
Runastav,
After seeing the work you did on your previous projects, I am looking forward to see your skills applied to a SMR.
Keep us posted please.

God Bless
Doug
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Offline Craig Wilcox

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Re: Building a Gillespie Rifle cal 50
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2018, 02:01:27 AM »
Runar, you always do such nice, precise work, and I am anxious to follow your progress.
Keep those pictures and words coming!
Did you find a strong sub-teenager to pull the rifling apparatus?
Craig Wilcox
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Re: Building a Gillespie Rifle cal 50
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2018, 03:04:59 PM »
Hi All and thank you! ScottH, sorry my bad English the Wood is European ALDER ;) Craig Wilcox, yes my youngest teenager son Martin well hes 31. So the Stock is out of the plank, and the barrelinlet is started. I use cheap patent ties? as a guide work vell for me this Wood is wery loose in fibers.
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Re: Building a Gillespie Rifle cal 50
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2018, 04:08:34 PM »
Hei Runar - good idea with your "patent ties", it would seem to be great as you can slightly force it in or out to accommodate a swamped barrel.  Probably easier with that wide plank that you have.  Do you drill the screw holes so as to not crack the wood?
You've made a good start!  Be sure to thank Martin, maybe give him a cup of coffee as a reward.
Hmmmm.  Me learning Norwegian while in my 70's!
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Re: Building a Gillespie Rifle cal 50
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2018, 01:19:02 PM »
Hi All! Craig Wilcox, no I dont drill first the screws is very thin/small. You Learning Norwegian nice :)
The looong barrel is now inletted
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Re: Building a Gillespie Rifle cal 50
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2018, 02:27:54 PM »
Hi All! The ramrod hole finish success ;)The only time so far the drill came out under was when drilling a hole in my halvf Stock Gemmer Shilo Sharps >:(
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Re: Building a Gillespie Rifle cal 50
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2018, 09:48:34 PM »
I always love your threads Runar.  Thank you so much for sharing with us.  You are fearless!   :-)  God Bless,   Marc

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Re: Building a Gillespie Rifle cal 50
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2018, 03:35:33 PM »
Hi all! and thank you Marcruger! Underlugs made from 1mm flat steel and all 3 in Place on barrel ;)
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Re: Building a Gillespie Rifle cal 50
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2018, 07:52:55 PM »
Hi Guys! So its the breach plug, I stik weld a flatsteel to the plug Charles Burton has made for the barrel and make it into a lollipop ;)
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Re: Building a Gillespie Rifle cal 50
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2018, 03:20:15 AM »
Nice. Is that a hardened screw that the file won't bite into?

The Gillespie shop was located about ten or fifteen miles from where I live now, so Gillespie rifles are extra interesting.
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Re: Building a Gillespie Rifle cal 50
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2018, 03:35:46 AM »
A lot to be learned from this project.  Thanks for taking the time to do it.

Why is there grass growing in your shop?  :)
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Re: Building a Gillespie Rifle cal 50
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2018, 06:15:58 AM »
Nice. Is that a hardened screw that the file won't bite into?

The Gillespie shop was located about ten or fifteen miles from where I live now, so Gillespie rifles are extra interesting.

Which shop Elnathan? Mills River or East Fork?
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Re: Building a Gillespie Rifle cal 50
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2018, 05:03:26 PM »
Mill's River, Dennis. I live in Fletcher, about four miles south of the airport.
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Re: Building a Gillespie Rifle cal 50
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2018, 02:39:47 PM »
Hi all! And thank you guys!Elnathan, the filing boss? is turned for just this lollipop and its NOT hardened no good for the files :-[Longcrusier, what grass hehe ;)Why is there grass growing in your shop?
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Re: Building a Gillespie Rifle cal 50
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2018, 04:07:59 PM »
Mill's River, Dennis. I live in Fletcher, about four miles south of the airport.

Mathew and his wife are buried in the Sitton/Gillespie cemetery that overlooks where his shop was right beside his father-in-law, Philip Sitton's iron works. Several other Gillespie gun makers are buried there, Harvey and his first cousin/brother-in-law John Harvey Gillespie and maybe another one, can't remember.

Old man John's gun mill was over near East Fork Baptist Church he and son William are buried in the family cemetery overlooking the East Fork River.

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Re: Building a Gillespie Rifle cal 50
« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2018, 08:51:01 PM »
Really enjoying the thread.  You make that doll's head tang inlet look easy.  I know better.  Fine work as usual. 
BTW, I have been to Fletcher many times on highway work. 

Best wishes, and God Bless,   Marc

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Re: Building a Gillespie Rifle cal 50
« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2018, 03:31:32 PM »
I like your "filing boss". I always enjoy your build threads.
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Re: Building a Gillespie Rifle cal 50
« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2018, 01:48:43 PM »
Hi All! And thank you guys! Starting inlett the L&R Durs Egg flintlock.
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Offline Craig Wilcox

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Re: Building a Gillespie Rifle cal 50
« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2018, 04:37:42 PM »
Runar, it looks to me like you are just having way too much fun!

Nice inlet, partner. You are moving right along on that rifle!
Craig Wilcox
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