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Offline B.Barker

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Plain rifle
« on: January 02, 2019, 06:06:30 AM »
Making a plain rifle with no butt plate or patch box. Red maple stock with a bit of curl in it. Early Ketland lock from Chambers and .50 C. Burton barrel 44" long. This one will have a mix of brass and iron furniture and I used keys to hold the barrel and stock together. The keys are from a rifle made here in Kentucky that is attributed to a Bryant. It will be at the Alabama show next week. It will have replacement triggers by then also.







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Offline Stoner creek

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Re: Plain rifle
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2019, 02:17:47 PM »
I can’t wait to see this one Brian. See you in Bama.
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Offline Cory Joe Stewart

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Re: Plain rifle
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2019, 02:21:35 PM »
That looks good.  I like mixing of materials with the brass and iron mounts. 

Cory Joe Stewart
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Offline sqrldog

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Re: Plain rifle
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2019, 06:46:35 PM »
Gonna be another good rifle Brian. Look forward to seeing you and the rifle at the Alabama Kentucky Show at Joe Wheeler State Park. Only a little over a week away. Shaping up to be another good show.
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Offline Mr. Bubbles

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Re: Plain rifle
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2019, 08:59:51 PM »
That toe is going to be super fragile and prone to breaking.  Do you do anything to reinforce the area, like maybe a hidden and plugged rod?
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Offline Mike Brooks

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Re: Plain rifle
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2019, 12:49:15 AM »
Quote from: Mr. Bubbles on January 02, 2019, 08:59:51 PM
That toe is going to be super fragile and prone to breaking.  Do you do anything to reinforce the area, like maybe a hidden and plugged rod?
It will be fine. I've seen more broken wrists than broken toes on guns with out buttplates.
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Offline David R. Pennington

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Re: Plain rifle
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2019, 01:02:22 AM »
I agree with Mike. I have seen several rifles with broken toes that had butt and toe plates. I think they might actually weaken instead of strengthen the area.
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Offline Greg Pennell

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Re: Plain rifle
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2019, 01:27:18 AM »
Nice lines on that one.  I’m thinking about building something similar for my son-in-law.  He hunts with one of those space gun things, and I’m trying to convert him... :o

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Re: Plain rifle
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2019, 01:54:00 AM »
BTW, nice lines on that gun. I'd have chosen the late ketland, but that's just me. ;) The early Ketland is one of the fastest locks on the market.
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Offline B.Barker

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Re: Plain rifle
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2019, 03:55:10 AM »
Mike there is a Kentucky made rifle with an early English lock like the Ketland and I liked how it looked. Besides I'm out of late Ketlands and waiting on three from Jim right now.

My daughter has a Lehigh with no butt plate for over twelve years and the toe is still in good shape so I'm not worried about the toe on this one. I just don't leave a sharp corner on my plateless rifle toes.
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Offline trailerpark

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Re: Plain rifle
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2019, 05:35:42 AM »
Can’t wait to see it finished with the iron and brass mounts. Will it be for sale at the show?
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Offline B.Barker

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Re: Plain rifle
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2019, 05:41:00 AM »
Maybe.
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Offline Elnathan

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Re: Plain rifle
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2019, 06:05:15 AM »
Quote from: B.Barker on January 03, 2019, 03:55:10 AM
Mike there is a Kentucky made rifle with an early English lock like the Ketland and I liked how it looked. Besides I'm out of late Ketlands and waiting on three from Jim right now.

If it is the one I am thinking of, it is discussed on this forum here: http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=7583.msg71736#msg71736

I went out and bought a copy of Whisker's book just to see what they were talking about, and it is a dandy piece indeed.
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Offline B.Barker

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Re: Plain rifle
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2019, 11:56:59 PM »
Yes that is the rifle. I was able to handle it and meet the owner at Waveland this past spring. Waveland is a plantation near Lexington that was owned by the Bryans. The trigger guard is the only iron furniture and it is a replacement. The nose cap and ramrod thimbles are brass. It's a very neat rifle I think. I'm  not trying to make a copy just something inspired by it.
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Re: Plain rifle
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2019, 01:18:56 AM »
Quote from: B.Barker on January 04, 2019, 11:56:59 PM
The trigger guard is the only iron furniture and it is a replacement. The nose cap and ramrod thimbles are brass.

Dang. Well, that kind of ruins a little theory of mine about the possibility of iron mounts in Pre-Revolutionary Piedmont NC (i.e., hypothetical common ancestors of the later iron mounted Deep River area rifles and this KY rifle). Good to know, though.

Wonder what the original guard looked like.
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