Sending gun to England

[Lucky R A]

       Anyone have any experience or guidance for sending a muzzle loading rifle  to a client in England.   Taxes, Duties, legalities, is it even worth the effort to try this?   I don't want to end up in an English dungeon for unknowingly violating one of their laws etc...

Ron

[L. Akers]

I sent a rifle to England several years ago.  It is not "illegal" for you to send the gun, but the client must have all his required ducks in a row in order to claim it from customs.  The rifle, in order to meet the client's requirements, must have a "serial number" stamped on the barrel.  This can be any kind of numbering system you want just so it identifies that particular gun.

[kentuckyrifleman]

Why would you send a beautiful icon of American greatness and independence off to a tyrranical state?

(slightly joking...) 

I don't think it would be worth the trouble. They regulate everything so closely over there, including shotguns and such.

[stuart cee dub]

Just wondering and not expecting an answer
.... and would it then be needed to be BP proofed and stamped as ''not English make''

The Europeans require barrels to be tested as a holdover from the days of hand forged barrels.
No just England either but the whole continent .

There is nothing easy about taking guns in Europe or shooting there from what little I know .


 

 

[Monty59]

in germany, every weapon which is sold by a dealer must have proved stamps on it, every weapon ! But if you own a antique gun that build before Januar 1.1891 it don't need a proof mark.
You find a lot of muzzleloader guns without proof marks in private hands with these it is not allowed to shoot before they are proved. But I do not know the exact laws for England.

Monty

[Lucky R A]

     Thanks, guys  I sent the initial info to the potential client, re the legalities, customs and I have heard nothing further from him.   I would think there are so many hurdles to jump that it is not going to happen...   Much easier to go to Lewisburg next week and sell the gun there---maybe.
Ron

[Don Stith]

You may find that there is also a license fee to export anything gun related out of the USA.  Even a gun stock was covered by that  one.

[L. Akers]

.... and would it then be needed to be BP proofed and stamped as ''not English make'' .

The client would have to have the gun proofed at London or Birmingham, it does not need any markings except for a S/N.  The gun I sent over proudly wears London proof marks.

You may find that there is also a license fee to export anything gun related out of the USA.

There is no export fee but there may be an import fee for which the client would be responsible.

The gun I shipped went by UPS.





 

[hawkeye]

I'm Hugo from Belgium. You need only a serial number on the gun. Buyer needs to get a import license according the guns serial number and then you can sent. Proo
ving is done when it's arrived at destiny

Hugo

[KentSmith]

From the UK Border Force Manual:

muzzle loading long arms are considered Section 1 firearms.

3.2 Documents required for an accompanied import of a firearm from a
non-EU country by UK residents.
3.2.1 Private individuals
Private individuals require one of the following documents:
• UK Firearm Certificate, or
• Shot Gun Certificate.
In the case of a newly acquired firearm the importer must have entered details
on the Certificate and, in the case of a firearm, the Certificate must be preauthenticated by the Police giving prior authority to acquire or purchase the
type of firearm being imported. The Police Firearms Licensing Manager for
the importer’s UK address must be notified of all importations.

It is the customers problem, but not easily addressed.  You get payment, ship the weapon submitting customs paperwork for the USPS or whoever you use to ship, and in order for the customer to receive the package he has to have all the paperwork in order. 

[Daryl]

Does Brexit change the importing requirements?

[Lucky R A]

Thank you all for all the great information.  I appreciate the extra effort that you have given this request.   It sure makes you appreciate the freedoms that we have here in this country---now if we can just keep them,   

Best to all,
Ron