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Offline Nhgrants

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Min wax stain over LMF stain
« on: February 24, 2019, 12:55:20 AM »
Has anyone applied a minwax stain over a LMF layer of stain?

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Re: Min wax stain over LMF stain
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2019, 01:13:52 AM »
A finish I did removing a cheek piece for a customer, on a rifle I did not make ...... Minwax stain with a mix of LMF over LMF - with a lot (a weeks worth) of adding shading, Bone black and making a faux tiger stripe....  Difficult project to say the least...








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Re: Min wax stain over LMF stain
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2019, 02:27:13 AM »
Nicely done.  Does it 'weather' well in the sunlight and handling, over time?  That seemed to be the problem with other stains that seemed to come out through the finish.
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Re: Min wax stain over LMF stain
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2019, 03:28:48 PM »
Please excuse my ignorance, would someone please provide the words for the acronym LMF.


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Re: Min wax stain over LMF stain
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2019, 03:47:59 PM »
Hi,
LMF stands for Laurel Mountain Forge.  NHGrants, I am not sure why anyone would choose a pigmented stain like Minwax unless they wanted to blend finishes or obscure a repair, restoration, or patch of some sort.  Dyes are much clearer.

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Re: Min wax stain over LMF stain
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2019, 04:58:47 PM »
Dave, that's exactly what I had to do above - almost a "Paint" if you will, a finish to match existing color and texture after a stock modification - I normally use Laurel Mountain Stains diluted, not Minwax stain. As per "holding power" in the sun, I have seen results on other materials, I do not have enough data on rifles to give an accurate prediction. Jon

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Re: Min wax stain over LMF stain
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2019, 05:26:55 PM »
Hi Jon,
That is what I guessed with respect to your alteration project that you did very nicely.  I just wanted to make sure NHGrants understands that pigmented stains tend to obscure grain like a thin coat of paint.  Having said that, there are definitely good uses to be made of it as you showed. 

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Re: Min wax stain over LMF stain
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2019, 06:31:22 PM »
Thanks Dave, that is the information I was looking for.

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Re: Min wax stain over LMF stain
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2019, 06:44:14 PM »
I would lean more toward the TransTint dyes from Woodcraft as demonstrated in Jim Kibler's latest video on staining.

https://www.woodcraft.com/products/transtint-dyes-honey-amber?via=573621f469702d06760016d0%2C5764234669702d6593003339%2C5764254f69702d3baa0025c5

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Re: Min wax stain over LMF stain
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2019, 01:25:28 AM »
Kingsbury Arms,

That was a magnificent job of matching that old stain.  I don't know if the viewers realize you cut the cheekpiece off.  I don't see any change of color or texture where the cheekpiece was.  Great job.

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Re: Min wax stain over LMF stain
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2019, 02:12:16 AM »
I have also had issues in the past with drying time on MinWax stains.  They seem to take quite a while to fully cure.  Woe be the man who puts finish over it before the MinWax stain is cured.  God Bless,   Marc