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Offline B.Barker

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Early rifle
« on: March 23, 2019, 05:02:14 AM »
I have an early rifle on my bench now. I really did have my shop cleaned up for about twenty minutes then I started working on this rifle. This one is built without butt piece and nose cap. I'm thinking about putting a brass band around the stock nose like some trade guns have. It will have a bit of simple carving on the stock also. This one has a very plain piece of hard maple that I bought from Wayne Dunlap about ten years ago so it should be good and dry. Customer wanted this style of wood box cover. It fits the dovetail cutout with no over hang. I've seen a couple originals with boxes like this and they are attributed to southern states for origin. The lock will get some export lock engraving on it too.








Offline Marcruger

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Re: Early rifle
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2019, 05:09:54 AM »
Beautiful lines, as we are coming to expect from you.  Fine architecture.  The box is unusual indeed.  I look forward to seeing this finished.   God Bless,  Marc

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Re: Early rifle
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2019, 06:12:34 AM »
What is export lock engraving?

Offline B.Barker

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Re: Early rifle
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2019, 06:22:31 AM »
Most English locks exported to this country had engraving on them that was probably done in a hurry or by apprentices. It's not master grade engraving. Something like this.


Offline Mike Lyons

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Re: Early rifle
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2019, 06:32:39 AM »
That’s a fine looking rifle Brian.  Your style is one of my favorites.

Offline wattlebuster

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Re: Early rifle
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2019, 12:43:10 PM »
Its all a fine gun should be. Cant wait to see it finished
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Offline Mike Brooks

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Re: Early rifle
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2019, 03:07:43 PM »
Prolific! I used to be like that..... :P That's going to be a great gun.
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Offline B.Barker

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Re: Early rifle
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2019, 04:30:44 PM »
Not as prolific as I would like to be Mike.

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Re: Early rifle
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2019, 05:14:35 PM »
  Brian I know I should know this. But what lock are you using ? I really like the lines of this gun. Also like the simple lock engraving. Just a well built clean looking firearm. Thanks for showing.    Oldtravler

Offline mtlonghunter

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Re: Early rifle
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2019, 05:35:10 PM »
This type of patchbox lid is also of European design.  See  Wilkinsons little book on flintlocks, a couple in there from Austria, I think, 1700 to 1750 +-.

Offline Telgan

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Re: Early rifle
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2019, 06:13:05 PM »
Like the gaurd Brian - which one is it?

Offline Greg Pennell

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Re: Early rifle
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2019, 06:17:59 PM »
Love the lines of this one, Brian. That trigger guard really works with the wrist of that rifle, too.

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Re: Early rifle
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2019, 07:03:56 PM »
How does the catch work? Does it just slip into the notch in the stock there?

I'm kind of curious about how the patchbox with no buttplate actually works. I can only think of two originals with that combination of features, and I don't know how the catches work on either or them.
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Re: Early rifle
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2019, 08:22:17 PM »
Lines remind me a little of an early rifle Acer knows well and replicated.





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Re: Early rifle
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2019, 10:26:07 PM »
The lock on this one is Chambers round face English lock. The one in the photo with engraving is an early Ketland.

Tom the guard is like the Faber rifles guard. Not sure where it came from because the customer dropped this on off for me to use.

The latch drops into the notch in the box cavity. I seen this kind of setup on an original.

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Re: Early rifle
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2019, 08:57:19 PM »
Brian....that's an awfully sweet rifle!

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Re: Early rifle
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2019, 04:10:05 AM »
Made a little headway today. I did some carving and started polishing the lock, made a rammer and thinned down the forearm and shaped it a bit more.






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Re: Early rifle
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2019, 04:44:44 AM »
I like.
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Offline B.Barker

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Re: Early rifle
« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2019, 03:57:12 AM »
Polished and engraved the lock today. I did I tell how much I hate polishing. Was wanting to get a rammer tip rolled and brazed but didn't have time.


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Re: Early rifle
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2019, 04:12:58 AM »
Gonna be another good rifle Brian.

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Re: Early rifle
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2019, 04:47:31 AM »
Looks like another winner.
I love the simplicity with that sweet little carving detail behind the cheek piece.

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Re: Early rifle
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2019, 04:28:44 PM »
I like.
Is that a Walter Cain single set trigger? Sure looks like it I used to shoot with Walter at our club he made “improvements “ on Siler locks too. He was a machinist at GM transmission plant .
Nice man not full of bs.
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Re: Early rifle
« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2019, 11:25:32 PM »
I believe it's his design but this one is from Rice barrel company.

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Re: Early rifle
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2019, 01:23:29 AM »
I'm putting the finish to the rifle now. I hope to have it done and with me at the Tennessee show next weekend.


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Re: Early rifle
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2019, 04:10:24 AM »
I love that simple volute in the cheek piece carving.  Neatly done. 
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