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Offline Acer Saccharum

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Re: Target Pistol
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2019, 11:52:51 PM »
Delicious!
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Re: Target Pistol
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2019, 02:31:16 AM »
Shifty:  yes I do, but I'll have to wait 'til I get home to post.  I had to reduce the height of the kicker(s) as much as I could to make the trigger work in the vertical space I had.  But they function nicely either set, or unset.
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Re: Target Pistol
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2019, 09:42:58 AM »
Check out the close-up on those diamonds.

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Re: Target Pistol
« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2019, 04:01:52 AM »
Lovely, I like everything about it.
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Re: Target Pistol
« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2019, 08:47:04 PM »
Great work love the engraving just right not over don. Really like nice long site radius. Makes me really want to get into my pistol project, itís been laid aside to long. 

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Re: Target Pistol
« Reply #30 on: May 29, 2019, 04:26:01 AM »
Heck, Taylor, evening he canít shoot well he will be the envy of everyone else in the line.

Taylor

How did you polish the metal that you blued using the LMF solution?
Did You draw file or use sandpaper or both?
Tim

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Re: Target Pistol
« Reply #31 on: May 29, 2019, 06:33:41 PM »
That's an excellent question Tim, because with bluing particularly, you must card the steel removing scale that accumulates during the browning process.  The carding on this piece was done using Brownell's soft wire wheel at 500 rpm.  In short, the finish is more IN the steel than ON it.  So, unless you remove file marks etc, they will show up after the boiling and carding is done.
So, the long answer is, I draw file to remove casting marks and to finalize the shape, and then use progressively finer abrasive cloth and paper, backed with various items including dowels, files, rubber hose, and special cut pieces of rubber from a found engine support block.  I likely stopped at 400 - 600 on this piece.  So the sequence would have been file, then abrasives 80, 120, 180, 220, 320, 400, and 600.  I use some wet/dry paper but I also use Norton's sandpaper...cuts nicely and lasts well.  When polishing steel, you will find that each finer grade of abrasive takes less time than the previous.  On each successive grade, I change the polish angle so that I can clearly see that I have removed the marks left by the coarser paper/cloth, ending with lengthwise stokes of the finest.
All the screw heads are engraved, case hardened and burnished with a wire wheel.
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Re: Target Pistol
« Reply #32 on: May 29, 2019, 07:05:57 PM »
Special pistol, Taylor. Well done.
Daryl

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Re: Target Pistol
« Reply #33 on: May 29, 2019, 07:11:19 PM »
I some how missed this the first time around.  That's some very fine engraving.  I especially like the details on the lock, right down to the tiny elements on the border of the hammer.
Great job Taylor.

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Re: Target Pistol
« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2019, 08:21:23 PM »
Thatís one fine looking pistol that anyone would be proud
To own and shoot. The details are crisp and clean
And I love that smooth blue finish Taylor did.
I am building a Kibler SMR and, except for the lock,
Plan to LMF rust blue all of the metal hardware.
Knowing what polish to put on those parts helps me
out so much. The trigger guard is now polished to 600
Grit wet or dry using soapy water as the lubricant.

Taylor, much thanks for going into detail on how you
Accomplished that awesome finish. I was afraid that
Polishing to 600 grit would be to slick for the rust to
Take hold.
Tim

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Re: Target Pistol
« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2019, 09:03:50 PM »
I brown in a damp box, ala John Bivens.  A dimmer switch and a 300 w incandescent bulb in an asbestos lined compartment in the bottom provides heat to ~ 95 F and over the blub sits a stainless steel bowl with two inches of hot water, gererating humidity just short of the dew point...IMPORTANT!  Your first application of LMF applied with one lengthwise wipe, will give a bluish/grey colour to bright steel over 2 1/2 hours.  Subsequent applications even out and bring up the rust that makes the barrel brown.  Do not be temped to go back over wet applications, even if you think you missed a spot.  You'll get those spots next application, though try to get it right on the one pass.  I use a Q tip damped with LMF for dovetails.  I apply the solution to steel parts with two cotton balls (drug store), dipped in the greenish LMF and wrung out 'til damp.
I get an even brown in about 6 - 8 applications, and this sometimes takes me to the second day.  Over-night, I take the parts out of the box and let them sit on my shop table, continuing the second day with the damp box.
I boiled this pistol's parts in distilled water for about twenty minutes, carded them (dry) with the wire wheel, washed them down with household ammonia, and oiled with motor oil.  No after rust.
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Re: Target Pistol
« Reply #36 on: May 30, 2019, 03:52:14 AM »
Beautiful.

I find it frustrating the NMLRA does not allow saw handled pistols in competition.  It seems arbitrary.  They were common.  The plow handles ones are much more likely to break the stock while loading. 

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Re: Target Pistol
« Reply #37 on: May 30, 2019, 04:09:50 AM »
Stunning. The hammer screw is, as my kids would say, Dope. How you inlet like you do is magic. Nicely done.

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Re: Target Pistol
« Reply #38 on: May 30, 2019, 05:13:36 AM »
Classic as usual Taylor    Bob

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Re: Target Pistol
« Reply #39 on: May 30, 2019, 07:36:10 AM »
Darned nice I say.
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Re: Target Pistol
« Reply #40 on: June 01, 2019, 11:09:30 PM »
Scotia, check Alacran's reply re using saw handled pistols at Friendship.  My son uses one in the championship aggregate.  In fact, the only matches where saw handles are prohibited are the "traditional" matches.

Beautiful pistol Taylor!

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Re: Target Pistol
« Reply #41 on: June 02, 2019, 03:11:47 PM »
The infamous " Last Duel " here in Canada, which took place in Perth Ontario, was conducted with a pair of saw handled  percussion lock pistols.  The pistols were on display at a museum there and look much like Taylor's creation

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Re: Target Pistol
« Reply #42 on: June 02, 2019, 04:35:00 PM »
Scotia, check Alacran's reply re using saw handled pistols at Friendship.  My son uses one in the championship aggregate.  In fact, the only matches where saw handles are prohibited are the "traditional" matches.

Beautiful pistol Taylor!

I have seen abominations like a 45ACP made into A FLINTLOCK and
"N"frame Smith&Wessons converted to percussion.Coil spring locks
also used."Traditional"matches? What is that?

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Re: Target Pistol
« Reply #43 on: June 03, 2019, 02:52:28 PM »

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I have seen abominations like a 45ACP made into A FLINTLOCK and
"N"frame Smith&Wessons converted to percussion.Coil spring locks
also used."Traditional"matches? What is that?

Bob Roller
I agree Mr Roller. If I was going to compete with a modern looking pistol, like a Ten Ring, Cimarron, Yassel, or for that matter any of the inline target muzzleloading pistols out there. I would just go out and use my modern guns in Bullseye competition.
All my ML pistols are "Kentucky" pistols.
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Re: Target Pistol
« Reply #44 on: June 03, 2019, 03:56:22 PM »
I have seen abominations like a 45ACP made into A FLINTLOCK and
"N"frame Smith&Wessons converted to percussion.Coil spring locks
also used."Traditional"matches? What is that?

Bob Roller
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The NMLRA defines a "traditional" ( read that "Kentucky") pistol as one that has a plow-handle stock, front sight no wider than .10in., rear sight no taller than .250 in. and the width of the barrel flat.