Author Topic: Stretched barrel  (Read 2102 times)

Offline Dave Tercek

  • Starting Member
  • *
  • Posts: 45
Stretched barrel
« on: April 22, 2019, 03:57:07 PM »
I'm new to this game. I've read a few descriptions that state the barrel was stretched, or stretched and refinished. It must be simple but I can't figure out what it means.
Thanks, Dave

Offline Longknife

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2094
Re: Stretched barrel
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2019, 04:03:13 PM »
Dave, This is usually done on original guns. It means that the barrel has been shortened at one time and restored or "stretched" to original estimated length. It is not really stretched but a new piece is added....ED
Ed Hamberg

Offline Dave Tercek

  • Starting Member
  • *
  • Posts: 45
Re: Stretched barrel
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2019, 04:13:28 PM »
actually welded on ?

Offline E.vonAschwege

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 3118
    • von Aschwege Flintlocks
Re: Stretched barrel
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2019, 04:20:59 PM »
Yep, a bevel is cut on both adjoining faces, and a careful TIG weld is applied, then dressed and refinished.  This is only done on antique arms that have been previously shortened, never to be fired again.  The length added is estimated by the distance between remaining ramrod thimbles and to some degree, pin spacing on the barrel. 
-Eric
Former Gunsmith, Colonial Williamsburg www.vonaschwegeflintlocks.com

Offline 45-110

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 544
Re: Stretched barrel
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2019, 04:30:32 PM »
Some barrels based on their wall thickness  allow for a liner to be installed after welding the extension on. Then boring out to the liner size. They then will be fine for shooting. Its done all the time in the black powder cartridge rifle game.

Offline Bill Raby

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1545
Re: Stretched barrel
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2019, 06:55:25 PM »
Seems like it would make more sense to stretch with a hammer and mandrel. No seams or weld that way, but you would have re-cut the rifling.

Offline rich pierce

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 19524
Re: Stretched barrel
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2019, 06:59:09 PM »
Seems like it would make more sense to stretch with a hammer and mandrel. No seams or weld that way, but you would have re-cut the rifling.

It would “skinnify” the barrel considerably and it would no longer ft the barrel channel. Don’t know a smith who could stretch one a foot and keep the bore.
Andover, Vermont

Offline Dave Tercek

  • Starting Member
  • *
  • Posts: 45
Re: Stretched barrel
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2019, 07:13:07 PM »
Very interesting
Thanks to all, Dave

Offline Justin Urbantas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1395
Re: Stretched barrel
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2019, 08:38:52 PM »
In Kit Ravenshear's Tubes  and tools book he talks about how Getz made him a 65" barrel by turning a sleeve joint on the barrels and soldering or welding them.

Offline grabenkater

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 414
Re: Stretched barrel
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2019, 01:38:50 PM »
Very common practice with shooters in the NSSA. I’ve seen dozens of long arms that have been stretched and restored to firing condition by using this method.
When a nation forgets her skill in war, when her religion becomes a mockery, when the whole nation becomes a nation of money-grabbers, then the wild tribes, the barbarians drive in... Who will our invaders be? From whence will they come?

Offline WKevinD

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1428
Re: Stretched barrel
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2019, 03:10:55 PM »
In Kit Ravenshear's Tubes  and tools book he talks about how Getz made him a 65" barrel by turning a sleeve joint on the barrels and soldering or welding them.

When Don Getz did this it was a for new barrel that was to fill a specific need that Kit had. He made a few of these special barrels that joined at the wedding band on octagon to round barrels.

Kevin 
PEACE is that glorious moment in history when everyone stands around reloading.  Thomas Jefferson

Offline Pukka Bundook

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3469
Re: Stretched barrel
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2019, 03:48:06 PM »
The old barrel forgers would lengthen a barrel if the customer wished, but that was with smooth-bores mainly.
I recall Col. Peter Hawker having a duck gun lengthened by William Fullard, and how after adding a foot (forge welded) to the barrel, it only weighed a few ounces more than prior.

Very canny work, lengthening a thin shotgun barrel like that!