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Offline Jim Kibler

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iron patina
« on: July 13, 2019, 10:46:38 PM »
Here's a short video on applying a quick grey patina to iron and steel parts. 

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Jim



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Re: iron patina
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2019, 01:51:46 AM »
Fantastic workspace there Jim.
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Re: iron patina
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2019, 01:32:54 PM »
Thanks Jim , your videos really help.

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Re: iron patina
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2019, 06:16:33 PM »
Fantastic workspace there Jim.

Yeah it is.  This was at the Shawshank wood shop (movie), which is the old Stephen Lumber Company in Upper Sandusky Ohio.  It's a great old building and they were kind enough to allow us to do a few videos there.  Katherine is from Upper Sandusky and her dad actually had a small part in The Shawshank Redemption.  He was Andy's lawyer near the beginning of the movie.  We'll have a longer video coming out showing the entire assembly of one our mountain rifle kits, which was shot there.  We wanted  to put together a less instructional video with lots of visual appeal.  This won't have any talking and will be condensed to about 20-30 minutes.  Our hopes are to spread it around other communities that aren't familiar with longrifles in order to boost some interest.

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Re: iron patina
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2019, 06:43:40 PM »
I just figured out why that never worked for me.  I can't hold my tongue right.   :P
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Re: iron patina
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2019, 07:07:46 PM »
I ran some tests on poking my tongue out and furrowing my brow while in the shop. It does seem to up my concentration level quite a bit.  :P

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Re: iron patina
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2019, 12:38:57 AM »
You'll be OK as long as you don't splash the liquid.  ;D
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Re: iron patina
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2019, 01:57:08 AM »
I don't stick my tongue out when working, however I do find myself talking under my breath about whatever I'm doing. What's scary is when I start answering myself and making sense.

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Re: iron patina
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2019, 05:06:49 PM »
I just figured out why that never worked for me.  I can't hold my tongue right.   :P

Dave,
 as long as I've known you... you've never held your tongue  ;) ;) ;)

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Re: iron patina
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2019, 05:26:25 PM »
I just figured out why that never worked for me.  I can't hold my tongue right.   :P
Dave,
 as long as I've known you... you've never held your tongue  ;) ;) ;)

Respect Always
Jonathan
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Touche' 
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Re: iron patina
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2019, 02:51:50 AM »
I don't stick my tongue out when working, however I do find myself talking under my breath about whatever I'm doing. What's scary is when I start answering myself and making sense.

Hey, sometimes that's how you get the right answers.  And if you're getting the right answers, you're talking to the right guy. Carry on.

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Re: iron patina
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2019, 03:24:44 AM »
It looks black to me, like cold blue.  Don't you normally rub it back with scotchbrite to get the gray color? 

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Re: iron patina
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2019, 05:56:24 PM »
It's actually lighter than it appears on the video.  Yep, I rub it back with steel wool.

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Re: iron patina
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2019, 10:01:59 PM »
Finished this fowler barrel with Jim,s Patina and the stock with his Iron nitrate. I like both a lot. Patina is very easy to apply.

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Re: iron patina
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2019, 08:09:43 AM »
I've heard forever that running a file backwards will dull the edge. Is this true or a myth?

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Re: iron patina
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2019, 12:36:47 PM »
It will for a single cut

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Re: iron patina
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2019, 07:07:45 PM »
Picking up a file with every back stroke isn't reasonable or even desirable for many filing jobs.  This is for a lot of reasons.  For precision, it's more difficult to re-position and get the proper angle with each stroke if lifting.  Also is speed.  Pressure isn't applied on the backstroke.  People like to say to lift on the backstroke, but in reality it's more complicated. 

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Re: iron patina
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2019, 07:26:08 PM »
Also, lifting and placing the file back on the flat would make marks in the work when the edge of the file is put back down unevenly. 

For draw filing I use a 12" single cut mill file.  No chalk.  No pressure on the back stroke.    Strokes about 12" long.  A lot of the movement comes from my whole body rocking back and forth as much as my arms. This helps to not rock the file.  I start at one end of the file and move it about 1" per stroke in to clean chip free territory.  When I get the the end, I remove any adhering chips and start again.   I often make sharpie marks across the flat to see what is happening.  I think this is pretty standard technique?

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Re: iron patina
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2019, 01:46:36 AM »
Picking up a file with every back stroke isn't reasonable or even desirable for many filing jobs.  This is for a lot of reasons.  For precision, it's more difficult to re-position and get the proper angle with each stroke if lifting.  Also is speed.  Pressure isn't applied on the backstroke.  People like to say to lift on the backstroke, but in reality it's more complicated. 

Jim

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Re: iron patina
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2019, 07:35:21 PM »
This was the method I was taught in college on my way to becoming a mechanical engineer many years ago when it was part of the curriculum. ;) They did frown on banging the file on the vise to dislodge particles! ;D.
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