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Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild Fair
« on: August 11, 2019, 06:40:26 AM »
Hopefully this is the correct forum.
Photos of the 2019 Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild Fair
Some done guns some nearly done. Some not so much.

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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild Fair
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2019, 07:00:10 AM »
Listening the Dave Rase’s casehardening demo and reverse sides of a some of the guns. And an original,  very heavy Boyer match rifle















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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild Fair
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2019, 03:54:26 PM »
Some really great guns on display, nice to see the art is doing well in Big Sky Country!

Who are the makers on these 2 guns please?





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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild Fair
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2019, 04:09:06 PM »
Sure is a lot of fine work represented there!
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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild Fair
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2019, 08:12:57 PM »
Dan  Several good looking engraved muzzles the swivel and the single .also several nice looking stocks. Were any of the pieces Don's? Is the Montana Gun Collectors asso.still active?
Best wishes George Hebling

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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild Fair
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2019, 12:11:39 AM »
Some really great guns on display, nice to see the art is doing well in Big Sky Country!

Who are the makers on these 2 guns please?





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John Archer
The fowler is Joe Sharber's.

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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild Fair
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2019, 12:20:13 AM »
I must say, I really like the patchbox design of John Archer’s East Tennessee rifle.  Never seen anything like that before.  Was that design characteristic of a particular builder or region?


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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild Fair
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2019, 12:27:44 AM »
Dan  Several good looking engraved muzzles the swivel and the single .also several nice looking stocks. Were any of the pieces Don's? Is the Montana Gun Collectors asso.still active?
Best wishes George Hebling
In the photos here only the FS flint Hawken is Don King

However, Steve brought over The Scarlet Bitch Sunday.

Darned camera did no focus on the inscription very well.
 The engraved muzzles are on Bill Madden's Lehigh and my swivel breech..
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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild Fair
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2019, 12:29:57 AM »
I must say, I really like the patchbox design of John Archer’s East Tennessee rifle.  Never seen anything like that before.  Was that design characteristic of a particular builder or region?


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Don't know I was busy most of the Fair and did not get a chance to ask.

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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild Fair
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2019, 01:34:03 AM »
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John Archer
The fowler is Joe Sharber's.

Dan

John Archer and Joe Sharber are two of my favorite builders.

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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild Fair
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2019, 04:43:49 PM »
Thanks for posting, Dan. John's rifle is stocked in persimmon. I don't know the source for his inspiration. Perhaps he will comment here once he gets back to Canada.

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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild Fair
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2019, 09:14:39 PM »
was that in Bozeman?  when was it held?

I have a place in Bozeman and was down there twice in the last 6 weeks

when is it next year ?  I NEED to go to this !

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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild Fair
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2019, 10:15:03 PM »
Ezra, while pawing through my Fair materials this morning, I stumbled on a handout prepared by John Archer that explains his patchbox design is based on one found on a rifle built by Ian Pratt. Whether Ian's build was his own or inspired by yet another rifle, John doesn't say.

Cable, the Fair is held at my place the second weekend of August.Send me a PM with your contact information and I'll see to it that  a copy of next year's Fair Brochure is sent to you.

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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild Fair
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2019, 11:18:55 PM »
My apologies to everyone. While John did base his rifle on one built by Ian, he copied the patchbox, with some modification, from one found on an original. I've got to quit relying on memory, which is almost shot!

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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild Fair
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2019, 02:58:19 AM »
John Archer's patchbox is based on an original that was posted to this forum a few years ago... go figure. There were actually 2 guns with similar patchboxes. One had a saw-tooth edge that drew a lot of comments. I seem to remember the saw-tooth one also had a back-action lock. I don't have my files with me as a I write this. I'll look it up and post the maker's name in the next few days... unless someone beats me to it.
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« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2019, 03:17:01 AM »
The guild is now on break until our Christmas social meeting in December. The new membership year will start in January. We always meet the 2nd Saturday of each month January-June. Except one month when they've changed the date for turkey season. As Bill's post states... contact him if you want info. We're always looking for new people.

We have members from Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, Washington... and even one member from Kentucky. We usually have 2 folks from British Columbia at the fair. One was John Archer, the other is Justin Urbantas. We're the best kept secret in the Rocky Mountains! Bozeman is 1 1/2 hours north of Yellowstone park... and right on interstate 90.

The first Saturday in August Bozeman holds it's annual "Sweet Pea" festival. It's not really about sweet peas... it's an art and music festival with 2 competing venues.

If you decide to come for the gunmaker's fair you can make a multi-week vacation out of your trip. Come visit us!
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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild Fair
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2019, 03:56:26 AM »
John Archer's patchbox is based on an original that was posted to this forum a few years ago... go figure. There were actually 2 guns with similar patchboxes. One had a saw-tooth edge that drew a lot of comments. I seem to remember the saw-tooth one also had a back-action lock. I don't have my files with me as a I write this. I'll look it up and post the maker's name in the next few days... unless someone beats me to it.

Bob,

The one in this thread?  It looks quite similar, but those sawtooth edges?  Good Lord, that’s enough to drive you mad inletting those!!!

http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=33564.msg321953#msg321953


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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild Fair
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2019, 01:55:43 AM »
Ezra, while pawing through my Fair materials this morning, I stumbled on a handout prepared by John Archer that explains his patchbox design is based on one found on a rifle built by Ian Pratt. Whether Ian's build was his own or inspired by yet another rifle, John doesn't say.

Cable, the Fair is held at my place the second weekend of August.Send me a PM with your contact information and I'll see to it that  a copy of next year's Fair Brochure is sent to you.

Bill

thanks

will do

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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild Fair
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2019, 02:35:18 AM »
Some fine looking guns there....


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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild Fair
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2019, 02:50:59 AM »
John Archer's patchbox is based on an original that was posted to this forum a few years ago... go figure. There were actually 2 guns with similar patchboxes. One had a saw-tooth edge that drew a lot of comments. I seem to remember the saw-tooth one also had a back-action lock. I don't have my files with me as a I write this. I'll look it up and post the maker's name in the next few days... unless someone beats me to it.

Bob,

The one in this thread?  It looks quite similar, but those sawtooth edges?  Good Lord, that’s enough to drive you mad inletting those!!!

http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=33564.msg321953#msg321953


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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild Fair
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2019, 06:10:00 AM »
RAT is correct about the box design....I was smitten by the hinge on the original. The inspiration for this rifle was a Tennessee rifle built by Ian Pratt for Art Riser and posted on the blog several years ago. I changed the side plate and the comb extension but otherwise it's a close copy. Ian's gun has a broken wrist repaired with glue and nails and the wrist shows evidence of being wire wrapped while the glue set. I wanted to do the same to this gun but the grain would not cooperate.

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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild Fair
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2019, 04:15:01 PM »
Photo courtesy of John Archer.



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Re: Montana Historical Gunmakers Guild Fair
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2019, 12:27:27 AM »
Great picture!!   And it's also great to see many faces of the folks who often post here.  Wonderful looking group.   Thanks for sharing....Mick C
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