Over&Under Jaeger

[helwood]

Over&Under Jaeger
Jim suggested a new line/subject so I'm  trying that.  This project started many years ago.  I like projects that are different.  Ron Scott knew this.  We had talked about it as a class project.  Not too much interest.  Ron made castings from one that he had and had been given permission to make castings from.  So Ron and I made one each.   Mike had made comment about buying one.  My interest in the different isn't just owning them.  It is the challenge of making them and seeing how they worked.  Going to Bowling Green Kentucky with the NMLRA program allows you to meet a wealth of folks that help you in many directions.    Hank




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[Ed Wenger]

Hey Hank, I hope there’s more coming!  I saw this rifle at Bowling Green, absolutely beautiful workmanship!!   


            Ed

[Elnathan]

Long breechplug tang on that lower barrel. Does it do double duty as the trigger plate as well?

[helwood]

Yes, the bottom breech plug does double as trigger plate and there is a block in it that is the stand for the triggers.  The trick was figuring out how the plate was shaped and how to figure out how to space the stand so the triggers would work for the Sears in the locks.  Ed Rayl left enough metal to do whatever needed to be done on both the upper barrel tang and the lower trigger plate.
       Hank

[Pukka Bundook]

Hank,

There was a heap of work between getting those castings and getting locks cleaned up and working!  You probably knew that without me telling you though!
Very fine workmanship, but you did fine stuff when we met in Bowling Green in 2003....  :-)

[Curtis]

Good to see you finally posted this one!  Excellent work Hank.

Curtis

[Ron Scott]

Here are photos of the same locks in situ. A friend has a set of castings he would like to find a home for.

[bama]

Thanks for posting these pictures Hank. In the several years I went to Bowling Green I was always fascinated by your projects. If I remember correctly you did a copy of the air rifle that Lewis and Clark took with them on their journey. A great piece of work also. I was hoping that you might have pictures of the internals of these locks. I would love to see the mainspring arrangement of the left lock.

I figured that Ron was involved somehow in this build. I have used one set of his castings on a Jeager that I built a few years ago and they were great. The casting for the locks look like they were possibly sand cast, is that the case? If so, did you and Ron do the castings?

Great job and thank you for starting the thread and posting more pictures of this project.

[helwood]

Greetings,
Jim, Yes I have made copies of both the Lukens and the Girardoni Air Rifles and I hope the following photos will answer your questions.  Ron  made the molds, waxes, then had them investment cast.  This is a very technical process.      Curtis thanks for the thoughts.  Figuring how to post isn't  that easy for me.  You  and Ed are a tough act to follow. 
The intension was to use R&L Small Siler Internals.
Pic #1-- Is a comparison of the Small Siler tumblers and the 2  tumblers I turned on the lathe.
Pic #2-- Is laying out shape of the tumbler before filing.
Pic #3&4-- Are the tumbler being filed from different directions.
Pic #5--- Tumbler held in a Collet Fixture for filing.  It is also a good way to hold the tumbler while drilling the hole for the cock screw.  This is Thanks to Jim Chambers from his lock class.
Pic#6--- Is the tumber after case hardening
Pic#7-- You see the Dykem on the Right lock to fine tune the internals.
Pic#8--- R&L lock at Full Cock
Pic#9--- R&L lock at Half Cock
Pic#10--R&L lock at Rest
Pic#11--Wider View
Pic#12--Exterior of locks before reworking exterior carving/engraving.
Well, sorry I tried to add the Pics but it keeps coming up error and won't let me?  I'll have to try again later.

[Ed Wenger]

I love the design of the left lock plate.  Also really like the design of the left lock panel that Ron posted.  Good stuff! 


            Ed

[helwood]

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These are the photos I tried to post earlier.  If correct they should be in the order I listed.     Hank